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All Blacks 2023

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

    @voodoo

    Chalk and cheese Blackadder was smoking bodies on Sunday.

    Turbos ain't Le Bleus.

    Both sides are better than Auckland mind you.

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    Chris
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    @KiwiMurph
    Can only comment on what I see now, and Sunday Blackadder was impressive.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @KiwiMurph
      Can only comment on what I see now, and Sunday Blackadder was impressive.

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      #2560

      @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

      @KiwiMurph
      Can only comment on what I see now, and Sunday Blackadder was impressive.

      I agree. I do think he gets talked about like he's some world class test star though, when, mostly due to injury, we just don't know as he hasn't played enough in big tests

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @voodoo

        Chalk and cheese Blackadder was smoking bodies on Sunday.

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        @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

        @voodoo

        Chalk and cheese Blackadder was smoking bodies on Sunday.

        Good to hear

        Tbh I haven’t seen enough of him against decent opposition to really make a call - but the times I have seen him, he’s been super busy, no care for his body sort of stuff. But just not folding people or bending defensive lines like I really want our 6 to do.

        The only point I was making with Thompson was just that height and weight are not necessarily good predictors of impact

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          #2562

          @voodoo
          I would like see him get an extended Run at 6 or 7 to see what he can bring.
          When he did start we were in a shit form slump and a bit confused in what we were trying to achieve
          I like his physical no fear approach.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

            @KiwiMurph
            Can only comment on what I see now, and Sunday Blackadder was impressive.

            I agree. I do think he gets talked about like he's some world class test star though, when, mostly due to injury, we just don't know as he hasn't played enough in big tests

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            @KiwiMurph

            I would like to see him get some regular game time to see what he can bring.
            He gives 100% and I like that.

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              We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
              Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
              Disclaimer: beer.

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              • R reprobate

                We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                Disclaimer: beer.

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                @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                Disclaimer: beer.

                You mean another one?

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                  Tim
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                  Papalii was excellent at test level in 2021 and 2022. Despite irregular minutes in 2023 he has been very good, and clearly better than Cane.

                  The stupid recency bias has the dumber posters basing their opinion of him on 2023 Super Rugby.

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                    Tim
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                    #2567

                    In the head to head game in Hamilton, Papalii had a huge game, and the Blues dominated possession and territory in the 2nd half. They also played the dumbest rugby that I have ever seen, and Beauden Barrett kicked the ball away so much that it should have been made a capital crime in the NZ criminal code. Christ, the number of penalties in the 22 they took as scrums.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                        Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                        Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                        Judge the jersey this weekend.

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                        Kiwiwomble
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                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                        Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                        Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                        Judge the jersey this weekend.

                        but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                          Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                          Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                          Judge the jersey this weekend.

                          but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

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                          Machpants
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                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                          Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                          Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                          Judge the jersey this weekend.

                          but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                          That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                          • M Machpants

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                            @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                            Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                            Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                            Judge the jersey this weekend.

                            but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                            That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                            Kiwiwomble
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                            @Machpants i dont know how to respond...we've seen the fern pattern on the jersey during RC games and had this discussion on the forum before, consensus being up close still obvious but cant really see it at any distance......

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                            • R reprobate

                              We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                              Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                              Disclaimer: beer.

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                              frugby
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                              #2572

                              @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                              We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                              Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                              Disclaimer: beer.

                              Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

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                              • M Machpants

                                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                                Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                                Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                                Judge the jersey this weekend.

                                but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                                That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                                Kiwiwomble
                                wrote on last edited by Kiwiwomble
                                #2573

                                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                                Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                                Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                                Judge the jersey this weekend.

                                but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                                That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

                                found a good pic....its the same jersey. to reiterate my feelings....ive gone from thinking it looks like a hawaiian shirt...to just thinking it looks a bit boring and cheap

                                alt text

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                                  Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                                  Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                                  Judge the jersey this weekend.

                                  but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                                  That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                                  Kirwan
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                                  #2574

                                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                                  Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                                  Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                                  Judge the jersey this weekend.

                                  but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                                  That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

                                  Nope.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    I stand corrected

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                                    • F frugby

                                      @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                                      Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                                      Disclaimer: beer.

                                      Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

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                                      Windows97
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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                                      Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                                      Disclaimer: beer.

                                      Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

                                      Ardie at 7 with a big 6 and big 8 who could both carry the ball would be awesome - unfortunately we just don't have either of those players - well Frizzel but he's only just come into form.

                                      Our loose forward trio really lacks size.

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                                        Steve
                                        wrote on last edited by Steve
                                        #2577

                                        We win the final with Ethan Blackadder and DMAC in the run on 15.

                                        Here. First.

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                                          Dan54
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                                          So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

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