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  • R reprobate

    We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
    Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
    Disclaimer: beer.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

    We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
    Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
    Disclaimer: beer.

    You mean another one?

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      Papalii was excellent at test level in 2021 and 2022. Despite irregular minutes in 2023 he has been very good, and clearly better than Cane.

      The stupid recency bias has the dumber posters basing their opinion of him on 2023 Super Rugby.

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        In the head to head game in Hamilton, Papalii had a huge game, and the Blues dominated possession and territory in the 2nd half. They also played the dumbest rugby that I have ever seen, and Beauden Barrett kicked the ball away so much that it should have been made a capital crime in the NZ criminal code. Christ, the number of penalties in the 22 they took as scrums.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

            @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

            Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

            Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

            Judge the jersey this weekend.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

            @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

            Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

            Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

            Judge the jersey this weekend.

            but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

              @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

              Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

              Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

              Judge the jersey this weekend.

              but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

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              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

              @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

              Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

              Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

              Judge the jersey this weekend.

              but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

              That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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              • M Machpants

                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                Judge the jersey this weekend.

                but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                @Machpants i dont know how to respond...we've seen the fern pattern on the jersey during RC games and had this discussion on the forum before, consensus being up close still obvious but cant really see it at any distance......

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                • R reprobate

                  We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                  Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                  Disclaimer: beer.

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                  @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                  We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                  Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                  Disclaimer: beer.

                  Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

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                  • M Machpants

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                    Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                    Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                    Judge the jersey this weekend.

                    but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                    That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                    #2573

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                    Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                    Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                    Judge the jersey this weekend.

                    but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                    That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

                    found a good pic....its the same jersey. to reiterate my feelings....ive gone from thinking it looks like a hawaiian shirt...to just thinking it looks a bit boring and cheap

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                    • M Machpants

                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                      Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                      Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                      Judge the jersey this weekend.

                      but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                      That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2023:

                      @taniwharugby I really don't like those jerseys - they look like a kid has doodled on it.

                      Fark it, I'll start another thread on best AB jerseys

                      Those are polo shirts not the jersey.

                      Judge the jersey this weekend.

                      but we've already seen the jersey, its the same one they've worn in the RC just with the RWC logo and no sponser

                      That's not correct, only the RWC jerseys have the squiggle, the 2023 normal version did not

                      Nope.

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                        I stand corrected

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                        • F frugby

                          @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                          We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                          Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                          Disclaimer: beer.

                          Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

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                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                          We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                          Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                          Disclaimer: beer.

                          Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

                          Ardie at 7 with a big 6 and big 8 who could both carry the ball would be awesome - unfortunately we just don't have either of those players - well Frizzel but he's only just come into form.

                          Our loose forward trio really lacks size.

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                            We win the final with Ethan Blackadder and DMAC in the run on 15.

                            Here. First.

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                              So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

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                                So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

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                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

                                If so I he he plays a blinder, cos he is a nothing against decent international opposition.

                                ABout where I am at

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                                • Windows97W Windows97

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  We have a gap at 7 which would fit Blackadder. Cane and Dalton are both not really up to it. Despite people seeming to have strong opinions either way, they're both kinda the same player and mediocre as far as the great history of the black 7 goes. Blackadder is too small for 6 really, but our options there are a bit shit too: Frizzel of the one good game, and Barrett the lock. Then the balance problem is exacerbated by having Savea 'wow what leg drive that's gained a metre post contact and made for slow ball that we can't do fuck all with' at 8.
                                  Put Blackadder and Finau in, then at least we wouldn't want for fellas throwing themselves into it. Fuck it why not put Sotutu in too. if you're gonna have an 8 who doesn't do the hard yards why not have one who can genuinely run and pass like a back.
                                  Disclaimer: beer.

                                  Been saying this for time... we go on about how good Ardie is, but imagine if you had him at 7, and a big fucker at eight who just bulldozers over people with minimal effort... only issue may be we don't have one of those.

                                  Ardie at 7 with a big 6 and big 8 who could both carry the ball would be awesome - unfortunately we just don't have either of those players - well Frizzel but he's only just come into form.

                                  Our loose forward trio really lacks size.

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                                  @Windows97 if they took Finau, putting Frizell at 8 with him at 6, then Cane or Savea at 7 would great.

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                                    @Windows97 if they took Finau, putting Frizell at 8 with him at 6, then Cane or Savea at 7 would great.

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                                    @BorderJB said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Windows97 if they took Finau, putting Frizell at 8 with him at 6, then Cane or Savea at 7 would great.

                                    Agree with that.

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                                    • S Steve

                                      We win the final with Ethan Blackadder and DMAC in the run on 15.

                                      Here. First.

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                                      @Steve With Fletcher Newell's father flying over for it which will bring a tear to your eye?

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                                      • Dan54D Dan54

                                        So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

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                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

                                        Havili was awesome at 12 against weaker opposition. But fark me, Smith Mo'unga Havili has got 'run at me bro' written all over it.

                                        Our 12 cupboard is as bare as our 6, and I sheet this home to selections and coaching once again.

                                        Wouldn't you love a developed Laumape right now?

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          So we hear tonight if Jordie is going to play? I think it will be Havili if he out, RMo is comfortable with him and Ioane has played a few tests with him, so is obvious replacement to me.

                                          Havili was awesome at 12 against weaker opposition. But fark me, Smith Mo'unga Havili has got 'run at me bro' written all over it.

                                          Our 12 cupboard is as bare as our 6, and I sheet this home to selections and coaching once again.

                                          Wouldn't you love a developed Laumape right now?

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                                          @nzzp

                                          Take a punt use LF at least he can bend the line,No kicking game but ALB hasn't either and can not bend the line either.

                                          Havilli has a kicking game but will not break the line either.
                                          For me stick a big fucker back in there to smash over the advantage line so our forwards have a chance to play off the from foot.
                                          We need to get right up the French and physically smash them.

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