RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls
Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
I saw an interview with Hansen recently,
He said the biggest mistake he made in the preparation for that game was to create a happy positive vibe in camp through the week. He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
And in the end they lacked the fire in the belly they had the week before . Talked about it like it was his biggest regret in coaching and would love that time again .
Hopefully he'd recognise his other mistakes and rectify those too and he truly doesn't belief being happy was the main reason!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls
Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
I saw an interview with Hansen recently,
He said the biggest mistake he made in the preparation for that game was to create a happy positive vibe in camp through the week. He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
And in the end they lacked the fire in the belly they had the week before . Talked about it like it was his biggest regret in coaching and would love that time again .
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.
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@Nepia yeah, when you select a lock at 6 in order to provide lineout height... probably a good idea to get the team to actually challenge the lineout.
@Bones said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Nepia yeah, when you select a lock at 7 in order to provide lineout height... probably a good idea to get the team to actually challenge the lineout.
Might want to ponder whether the slow moving distributor is the best guy for the wing too.
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.
@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.
Yep, might not have been much of a big deal if he wasn't available.
Diving into my foxhole now.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.
Yep, might not have been much of a big deal if he wasn't available.
Diving into my foxhole now.
@Nepia said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.
The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.
Yep, might not have been much of a big deal if he wasn't available.
Diving into my foxhole now.
Strange thing is that I agree with this & think it applies to Cane as well.
Yet, I think we would have done better vs France if Cane had played.
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FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
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@game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls
Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?
Dumb, dumb, dumb.
@Victor-Meldrew Said they were big, didn’t say they were good!
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@game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@BerniesCorner Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls. Just a shame he was the only guy in NZ who would have dropped Ben Smith.
I don't think credit should be given for big stupid selection calls.
@Nepia We all know how it panned out and were sceptical beforehand about trying to counter the English pack instead of saying ‘this is us, try and beat us’. But he put his business on the table. Rightly or wrongly, he had the grapefruits to make the big call. May not like it, but I’ll respect it.
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The mismanagement of ST is a black mark on teh coaching group. Leading up to the trot around against Namibia he has played the equivalent of two games since the Super Rugby final. Two fucking games
Taylor is just so very ordinary. ST should be a point of difference in our pack, instead he's left to wither on the vine as an inferior player racks up minute after average minute.
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
The mismanagement of ST is a black mark on teh coaching group. Leading up to the trot around against Namibia he has played the equivalent of two games since the Super Rugby final. Two fucking games
Taylor is just so very ordinary. ST should be a point of difference in our pack, instead he's left to wither on the vine as an inferior player racks up minute after average minute.
Totally agree with this. Will be very interesting to see what Razor does next year with a lot of this squad gone.
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FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
@Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6289/rwc-week-4-all-blacks-v-italy/111?_=1695876800862
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FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
@Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?
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@Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?
@MN5 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?
Now you're being silly, Schrödinger's loose forward is immeasurable.
Anyway nothing on fifty minute frizzle
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@MN5 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?
Now you're being silly, Schrödinger's loose forward is immeasurable.
Anyway nothing on fifty minute frizzle
@Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@MN5 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
@Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.
Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?
Now you're being silly, Schrödinger's loose forward is immeasurable.
Anyway nothing on fifty minute frizzle
I had to google what this meant
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:
Mo'unga out means DMac to ten, and havili to the bench, I reckon
Why would we have Havili and ALB on the bench?
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O'Gara thinks the ABs can "surprise people and go all the way" if they are "more aggressive with their 'D'". So he obviously thinks the standard of cattle is good enough
Given he has experienced NZ rugby, he knows the quality NZ possess. The quip about the 'D' is a dig towards the coaches. I remember he had similar conversations with Robertson and the Crusaders players in his time there about moving them away from man-watching to ball-watching. -
O'Gara thinks the ABs can "surprise people and go all the way" if they are "more aggressive with their 'D'". So he obviously thinks the standard of cattle is good enough
Given he has experienced NZ rugby, he knows the quality NZ possess. The quip about the 'D' is a dig towards the coaches. I remember he had similar conversations with Robertson and the Crusaders players in his time there about moving them away from man-watching to ball-watching."the opposition’s going to have too much possession and be able to fire too many shots. They probably have to defend a lot of players with X-factor". O'Gara
Pretty much what we've seen in the last 7-10 years or so. Other countries have better players than before and much better player development plans. Just look at France U20 development and the changes made to Irish rugby.
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O'Gara has more defensive insight than the ABs? Yikes. Could be true but oh so ironic.
