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RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Nepia yeah, when you select a lock at 6 in order to provide lineout height... probably a good idea to get the team to actually challenge the lineout.

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    @Bones said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Nepia yeah, when you select a lock at 7 in order to provide lineout height... probably a good idea to get the team to actually challenge the lineout.

    Might want to ponder whether the slow moving distributor is the best guy for the wing too.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

      The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.

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      @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

      He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

      The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.

      Yep, might not have been much of a big deal if he wasn't available.

      Diving into my foxhole now.

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

        The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.

        Yep, might not have been much of a big deal if he wasn't available.

        Diving into my foxhole now.

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        @Nepia said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        @kiwiinmelb said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

        He said they thought they were going to lose Reid through injury and he was worried heads would drop so created an upbeat atmosphere.

        The irony is Read was very much hanging on by 2019.

        Yep, might not have been much of a big deal if he wasn't available.

        Diving into my foxhole now.

        Strange thing is that I agree with this & think it applies to Cane as well.

        Yet, I think we would have done better vs France if Cane had played.

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          https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=675740674504031

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            Awesome, we're now RWC favourites 'cos DMAAAAAAAAAAAC!

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              Awesome, we're now RWC favourites 'cos DMAAAAAAAAAAAC!

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              @Machpants

              FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls

                Like playing Scooter at 6 to dominate the English lineout in the semi?

                Dumb, dumb, dumb.

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                @Victor-Meldrew Said they were big, didn’t say they were good!

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @game_film said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                  @BerniesCorner Credit to Hansen in 2019 he actually made some big selection calls. Just a shame he was the only guy in NZ who would have dropped Ben Smith.

                  I don't think credit should be given for big stupid selection calls.

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                  @Nepia We all know how it panned out and were sceptical beforehand about trying to counter the English pack instead of saying ‘this is us, try and beat us’. But he put his business on the table. Rightly or wrongly, he had the grapefruits to make the big call. May not like it, but I’ll respect it.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    The mismanagement of ST is a black mark on teh coaching group. Leading up to the trot around against Namibia he has played the equivalent of two games since the Super Rugby final. Two fucking games

                    Taylor is just so very ordinary. ST should be a point of difference in our pack, instead he's left to wither on the vine as an inferior player racks up minute after average minute.

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                    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                    The mismanagement of ST is a black mark on teh coaching group. Leading up to the trot around against Namibia he has played the equivalent of two games since the Super Rugby final. Two fucking games

                    Taylor is just so very ordinary. ST should be a point of difference in our pack, instead he's left to wither on the vine as an inferior player racks up minute after average minute.

                    Totally agree with this. Will be very interesting to see what Razor does next year with a lot of this squad gone.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @Machpants

                      FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

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                      @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                      @Machpants

                      FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

                      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6289/rwc-week-4-all-blacks-v-italy/111?_=1695876800862

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                        @Machpants

                        FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

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                        @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                        @Machpants

                        FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

                        Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                          @Machpants

                          FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

                          Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?

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                          @MN5 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                          @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                          @Machpants

                          FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

                          Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?

                          Now you're being silly, Schrödinger's loose forward is immeasurable.

                          Anyway nothing on fifty minute frizzle

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                            Mo'unga out means DMac to ten, and havili to the bench, I reckon

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                              @MN5 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @Machpants

                              FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

                              Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?

                              Now you're being silly, Schrödinger's loose forward is immeasurable.

                              Anyway nothing on fifty minute frizzle

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                              @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @MN5 said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @Chris said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                              @Machpants

                              FFS that is getting really silly, Jesus D MAC they are clutching at straws.

                              Are you saying he’s even better than Ethan Blackadder ?

                              Now you're being silly, Schrödinger's loose forward is immeasurable.

                              Anyway nothing on fifty minute frizzle

                              I had to google what this meant

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                                Mo'unga out means DMac to ten, and havili to the bench, I reckon

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                                @Machpants said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                Mo'unga out means DMac to ten, and havili to the bench, I reckon

                                Why would we have Havili and ALB on the bench?

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                                  O'Gara thinks the ABs can "surprise people and go all the way" if they are "more aggressive with their 'D'". So he obviously thinks the standard of cattle is good enough 😉 Given he has experienced NZ rugby, he knows the quality NZ possess. The quip about the 'D' is a dig towards the coaches. I remember he had similar conversations with Robertson and the Crusaders players in his time there about moving them away from man-watching to ball-watching.

                                  https://www.planetrugby.com/news/ronan-ogara-offers-theory-for-all-blacks-struggles-over-recent-years

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                                    O'Gara thinks the ABs can "surprise people and go all the way" if they are "more aggressive with their 'D'". So he obviously thinks the standard of cattle is good enough 😉 Given he has experienced NZ rugby, he knows the quality NZ possess. The quip about the 'D' is a dig towards the coaches. I remember he had similar conversations with Robertson and the Crusaders players in his time there about moving them away from man-watching to ball-watching.

                                    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/ronan-ogara-offers-theory-for-all-blacks-struggles-over-recent-years

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                                    @stodders

                                    "the opposition’s going to have too much possession and be able to fire too many shots. They probably have to defend a lot of players with X-factor". O'Gara

                                    Pretty much what we've seen in the last 7-10 years or so. Other countries have better players than before and much better player development plans. Just look at France U20 development and the changes made to Irish rugby.

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                                      O'Gara has more defensive insight than the ABs? Yikes. Could be true but oh so ironic.

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                                        Nice article on Whitelock.

                                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66916635

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                                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                          As an off topic statement as long as we hold our discipline and play with passion we can compete with any of the sides. The one area I am not so sure about is the SA bomb squad scrum. That is some serious sh*t to deal with.

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                                          @BerniesCorner said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

                                          As an off topic statement as long as we hold our discipline and play with passion we can compete with any of the sides. The one area I am not so sure about is the SA bomb squad scrum. That is some serious sh*t to deal with.

                                          Reasonably comforatble that Ofa/Coles/Nepo with BBBR and Big Sam/Scooter behind them will hold their own.
                                          Not many RWC sides have two good scrummaging THs.

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