RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.
There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.
There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?
In Christies case maybe sunburn even at this time of year ?
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Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.
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@Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning
From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning
From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought
But I liked the way he handled his little period of yips - thought that showed a lot of maturity and composure. And I'd prefer his speed of decision making over Christie any day.
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It’s been a looooong week
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Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.
@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.
Exactly. Roigard offers more overall than Christie in my book. He may not have come on in a tight game but he's worth that risk.
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Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)
Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland
The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
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Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)
Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland
The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
Why?
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@stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.
Exactly. Roigard offers more overall than Christie in my book. He may not have come on in a tight game but he's worth that risk.
@Victor-Meldrew Christie's performance stats this year don't even come close to Roigard's. Yes Roigard had a few blips in his last outing but that's all character building. He's been a far more consistent player all year and he has shown that his ceiling is, and will continue to be far higher that Christie's.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
Why?
@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
Why?
Because Christie is “experienced”
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@Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
Why?
Because Christie is “experienced”
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Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)
Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland
The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)
Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland
The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
ABs don't generally defend leads, they still try and attack ergo Roigard all the time. Christies fringe defence can be good, but meh, that's not his main job
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@MN5 experienced at being shit. Like he doesn't even look like a test halfback when he plays for the Blues.
@Canes4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 experienced at being shit. Like he doesn't even look like a test halfback when he plays for the Blues.
Experience breeds confidence though…..
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Surely Smith plays pretty much full game unless he breaks, or we are up by 20 with 5mins to go.
If he breaks, then Roigard is the guy I want coming on. Likewise if we are behind and need to make a change, it’s Roigard.
@JK said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Surely Smith plays pretty much full game unless he breaks, or we are up by 20 with 5mins to go.
If he breaks, then Roigard is the guy I want coming on. Likewise if we are behind and need to make a change, it’s Roigard.
Nope he has not got those legs anymore, he can't do 80
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Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)
Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland
The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
It's Smith and Roigard either way for me. I obviously don't see what people see in Christie that puts him in the same conversation as Roigard, it's baffling.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
It's Smith and Roigard either way for me. I obviously don't see what people see in Christie that puts him in the same conversation as Roigard, it's baffling.
@Canes4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie
If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard
It's Smith and Roigard either way for me. I obviously don't see what people see in Christie that puts him in the same conversation as Roigard, it's baffling.
Fozzie logic. Ye olde stopped clock.
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@Victor-Meldrew Christie's performance stats this year don't even come close to Roigard's. Yes Roigard had a few blips in his last outing but that's all character building. He's been a far more consistent player all year and he has shown that his ceiling is, and will continue to be far higher that Christie's.
@Canes4life Exactly. 100%
He's played in the majority of tests this year, has bedded down seamlessly and offers way more options.
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It makes no sense to go cold on Roigard based on one start vs Uruguay where he came right anyway.
Christie has often struggled when starting (and from the bench mind you).
If it indeed is Christie you get the sense Fozzie was looking for a reason not to select Roigard.
