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RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland

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  • gt12G Offline
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    Mils is speaking some truths on the breakdown - if you can believe it. He’s discussing the pressure of being no 1 and coming in with expectations, and talking about how Ireland will learn from this disappointment - NZ did for more than 20 years.

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    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

      Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.

      Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.

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      @Donsteppa said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

      Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.

      Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.

      I mean, this was basically what we did in 2011 - largely imposed because of an injury crisis in the 10 jersey.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

        @JayCee was a ruck about phase 14, BR was over the ball, should have ended there, Barnes called away and BR quickly pulled away, so often players keep going when they have won it...the discipline in those 30 odd phases was something rarely seen by this AB side.

        I think a couple of those ruck no calls were marginal

        Retallick over the ball - he was quick to call no hands
        Ardie over the ball - did Ardie fully detach as the tackler?
        T. Williams offside - close but pulled away after one extra long go at it.
        Ioane neck roll - looked to have started around the shoulders and then go higher

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        @ACT-Crusader the Ardie one was close and he didn't let go, was cleaned out and pleading with the AR, I think BR one was pretty clean, but Barnes saw different and BR let it go...

        Obviously Cane was asked about the comment from POM too, he fended it off, he'd already go the best response to it.

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          You've served your country well, kid.

          FB_IMG_1697527473392.jpg

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            @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

            I’m not going. ABs have never lost a RWC game I didn’t attend.

            I tell a lie: I didn't go to 99 third place play off, but that doesn't count in my books.

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            @pakman

            I want to the semi and the 3rd place game in 99

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            • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

              Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.

              Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.

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              @Donsteppa said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

              Maybe this is the opposite of the 2007 RWC campaign. Rather than over thinking it about whether individual players can get through three knockout games in a row, just get stuck in and fire up for each game at a time.

              Injuries, attrition, and tiredness being factors that each team that makes the Final just has to deal with.

              Really good point. Seen that in successful business teams where planning got screwed and they had to just stay focussed on the basics. Imagine the military do this every day.

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                Many of the leadership group are playing their last two tests in black, maybe they are trying to savour each day as if it was their last (which they are)

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Aside from the pronunciation of Savea I really like the World feed main commentator (Rupert Cox?). He does a great job.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                  Aside from the pronunciation of Savea I really like the World feed main commentator (Rupert Cox?). He does a great job.

                  With all the moolah going around, why hasn't someone hired Andrew Cotter ?

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

                    That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

                    As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

                    I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.

                    Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?

                    They were 4 points down

                    Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.

                    You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.

                    No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.

                    I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.

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                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                    I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.

                    Clearly the Irish team are avid readers of the Fern

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                    • WairauW Wairau

                      @MajorRage there were many Irish passes that looked a little forwards.
                      Who's the pillock who always says SavAYa?
                      and TamEYEti Williams

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                      @Wairau

                      Yes there was. The most annoying one not called was about 5 seconds before Smith got carded

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @MajorRage

                        I agree it is a shit question, but he must have expected it. He cant disavow the sledge, so he should have owned up to it.

                        If he’d said ‘yeah, that one came back to bite me a bit, he was excellent today when it really counted for his team’ then I’d have a pretty different opinion of him. I imagine a Dane Coles or Gregan or Fitzpatrick would say something similar.

                        It’s fair that he might not have been in the right head space but perhaps that’s the point, he was happy to be a bully when we lost with quite a few things going against us.

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                        @gt12 agree, that’s the more PR answer.

                        But hey, I prefer honesty over PR every day. At the time he thought it a bullshit question so said so.

                        I respect that much more.

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                          Good Christ. How did this not get pinged?
                          https://www.facebook.com/reel/647579057365109?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz
                          Obviously you have the Ardie steal, but that neck roll on JB! Barnes was definitely partying like it was 2007.

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                            Fuck no point going all rassie, refs miss heaps. Get over it

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                              Fuck no point going all rassie, refs miss heaps. Get over it

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                              @Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                              Fuck no point going all rassie, refs miss heaps. Get over it

                              Damn. That's a low blow. What got sand in your vag?

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                i've seen another angle of the Ioane/Sexton "incident" and that makes it look for all money like the first words come from the guy in green (when Iaone had moved on to shake the next guys hand), Ioane chirps back, and Sexton blows up.

                                It's all dumb shit and i wish people would stop talking about it

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                                @mariner4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                i've seen another angle of the Ioane/Sexton "incident" and that makes it look for all money like the first words come from the guy in green (when Iaone had moved on to shake the next guys hand), Ioane chirps back, and Sexton blows up.

                                It's all dumb shit and i wish people would stop talking about it

                                Nah fuck that.

                                Living in vitriol and hate is so much fun

                                "Classless" ?

                                stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300990047/retiring-ireland-captain-johnny-sexton-rips-classless-all-black-rieko-ioane

                                Pot meet kettle

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1713797167696281676

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                                  @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1713797167696281676

                                  This post needs more love.

                                  "Whitelock! Whitelock! Whitelock!"

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                                    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1713797167696281676

                                    This post needs more love.

                                    "Whitelock! Whitelock! Whitelock!"

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                                    @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1713797167696281676

                                    This post needs more love.

                                    "Whitelock! Whitelock! Whitelock!"

                                    Izzy Dagg 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

                                      That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

                                      As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

                                      I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.

                                      Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?

                                      They were 4 points down

                                      Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.

                                      You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.

                                      No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.

                                      I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @booboo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @pakman said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @scribe said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                      They backed their "cut and paste" attack to pry open the ABs defence.

                                      That was quite the telling comment from Foz.

                                      As if, in actual fact, they have fuck all variation, and once you figure it out, you can defend it all day.

                                      I noticed this in my drunken haze at the ground. It was all very methodical.

                                      Boks guy was commenting on same at pub last night, and how slow Sexton was. Perhaps after the 30th phase a pop kick might have been worth a shot? Definition of insanity and all?

                                      They were 4 points down

                                      Their cut and paste wasn't working. Roll the die? Pretty tame ending for them.

                                      You're thinking droppy earlier in the match? Thought you meant that last phase, whereupon a droppy would have lost it foe them by 1.

                                      No, just think after, say, 30 phases, a chip kick would have been worth a shot. Might have even worked.

                                      I can imagine the outcry if BB or RM did a chip kick in the same situation and it didn't come off. I can see why Ireland didn't try one.

                                      History is written by the victors. What can be said without fear of contradiction is that they perservered with a strategy which had shown no sign of working.

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                                        @pakman

                                        I want to the semi and the 3rd place game in 99

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                                        @DaGrubster Eek! About 60 into the semi Pakman junior asked, 'What's happening, Dad?'!

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                                        • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                          Good Christ. How did this not get pinged?
                                          https://www.facebook.com/reel/647579057365109?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz
                                          Obviously you have the Ardie steal, but that neck roll on JB! Barnes was definitely partying like it was 2007.

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                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

                                          Good Christ. How did this not get pinged?
                                          https://www.facebook.com/reel/647579057365109?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz
                                          Obviously you have the Ardie steal, but that neck roll on JB! Barnes was definitely partying like it was 2007.

                                          Despite this, and the two yellows from Barnes, the first of which should never have stood, we still prevailed.

                                          Irish just weren't good enough.

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