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All Blacks 2024

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    I'll have to remember all this sage advice about experience when Barrett is starting at ten for Razor.

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    • C chchfanatic

      I’m sure someone on here mentioned Whitelock coming back a few months ago.
      Do we know for certain it’s Razor chasing him. Or maybe he’s coming back for other reasons. But it fits the media’s narrative this way.
      Don’t believe everything you read in the media.
      Also people’s opinions on here mean absolutely nothing in the real world.
      Just my opinion though.

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      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Also people’s opinions on here mean absolutely nothing in the real world.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        I'll have to remember all this sage advice about experience when Barrett is starting at ten for Razor.

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        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I'll have to remember all this sage advice about experience when Barrett is starting at ten for Razor.

        considering the enormous amount of dumb shit i spout on here, there is no way i want keeping receipts to become a thing

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        • ChrisC Chris

          What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

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          African Monkey
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          @Chris what's his contract situation at Pau? Is he unhappy there? Did he only sign a short term deal?

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          • A African Monkey

            @Chris what's his contract situation at Pau? Is he unhappy there? Did he only sign a short term deal?

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            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris what's his contract situation at Pau? Is he unhappy there? Did he only sign a short term deal?

            2 year deal Don't know the other pieces.

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              Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

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                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

                It is Rumours as far as I know.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  I can understand wanting guys like Whitelock in and around the current crop of locks, but given we have Barrett currently who is vastly experienced, he is the one we should be looking to for bringing in the next generation through, Lord in particular is one I hope is fit and selected.

                  Frizell is a bit of a myth IMO, while Ryan rated him, this was presumably off the back of trainings and 1 very good game.

                  Assuming this is fact and not distorted.

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                  @taniwharugby His defence always sucked.

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

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                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

                    shake the very foundation of the forum why dont ya!?

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                      #978

                      I guess the tweet was just ripped from this article

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/sam-whitelock-approached-to-return-to-all-blacks-by-scott-robertson/BL5DWN3AUNCYVPJ4JPNJTD4FM4/

                      Or vice versa

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                      • A African Monkey

                        @mariner4life Yeah Fozzie certainly got no free ride, he was abused from all angles before his first test in charge haha.

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

                        Do you think a role for him as a specialist lineout coach with the All Blacks is a possibility? A mentor/coach for the young locks coming through?

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                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

                          Do you think a role for him as a specialist lineout coach with the All Blacks is a possibility? A mentor/coach for the young locks coming through?

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                          @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @mariner4life Yeah Fozzie certainly got no free ride, he was abused from all angles before his first test in charge haha.

                          I think at the time it was more people's fustration that Foster was appointed to what is supposed to be the most prestigious coaching role in the country given there were probably about 50 higher qualified candidates

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

                          Do you think a role for him as a specialist lineout coach with the All Blacks is a possibility? A mentor/coach for the young locks coming through?

                          Yep I think that could happen.

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                            As noted in another thread, hopefully Razor's mind control over referees will still be a thing when he's coaching a level up.

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                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-crusaders-respond-as-scott-robertson-hunts-sam-whitelock-for-all-blacks-return/RPYCVNSUUJAQBGX5XC5SUH6GL4/

                              “Sam left an enduring legacy here at the Crusaders, and we can see that in the quality of locks we have, now under the tutelage of Scott Barrett,” said chief executive Colin Mansbridge.

                              “Once a Crusader, always a Crusader, but as far as we know he’s on a two-year deal with Section Pau.”

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                surf jesus really trying to get the band back together aye? FMD

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                                @mariner4life did you hear the one about George Bridge….

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @mariner4life did you hear the one about George Bridge….

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                                  @ACT-Crusader is Luke Whitelock available

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @ACT-Crusader is Luke Whitelock available

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @ACT-Crusader is Luke Whitelock available

                                    No, but Adam and George are

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                                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                      Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

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                                      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

                                      Just the 'Surf Jesus' crew.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Yeah you want your war horses in the RWC year - not in the year after the RWC.

                                        Not the point more up sides to young players learning off Whitelock a real test lock than Vaai pretending to be one.
                                        Short sighted not looking at the potential overall long term benefits.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Not the point more up sides to young players learning off Whitelock a real test lock than Vaai pretending to be one.

                                        Amen

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                                          It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                                          Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                                          Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                                          Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                                          DaGrubster
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                                          @Chris

                                          Clearly lock is the biggest issue for us over the next couple of seasons.

                                          We have Barratt - world class lock, Lord - who has potential, injury prone, inexperienced - Vai’i who needs to improve a huge amount.

                                          Holland - not eligible yet

                                          Of all the players overseas, Whitelock would make the most sense, help shore up locking position adding depth, mentoring the younger crop of locks coming through to get them ready to become world class.

                                          So he would be a player, mentor, pseudo specialist coach

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