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All Blacks 2024

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  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

    Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

    shake the very foundation of the forum why dont ya!?

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      I guess the tweet was just ripped from this article

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/sam-whitelock-approached-to-return-to-all-blacks-by-scott-robertson/BL5DWN3AUNCYVPJ4JPNJTD4FM4/

      Or vice versa

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      • A African Monkey

        @mariner4life Yeah Fozzie certainly got no free ride, he was abused from all angles before his first test in charge haha.

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        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

        Do you think a role for him as a specialist lineout coach with the All Blacks is a possibility? A mentor/coach for the young locks coming through?

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          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

          Do you think a role for him as a specialist lineout coach with the All Blacks is a possibility? A mentor/coach for the young locks coming through?

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          @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @mariner4life Yeah Fozzie certainly got no free ride, he was abused from all angles before his first test in charge haha.

          I think at the time it was more people's fustration that Foster was appointed to what is supposed to be the most prestigious coaching role in the country given there were probably about 50 higher qualified candidates

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          What I have heard is Whitelock would play SR next season and potentially some of this seasons SR.

          Do you think a role for him as a specialist lineout coach with the All Blacks is a possibility? A mentor/coach for the young locks coming through?

          Yep I think that could happen.

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            As noted in another thread, hopefully Razor's mind control over referees will still be a thing when he's coaching a level up.

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              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/super-rugby-pacific-crusaders-respond-as-scott-robertson-hunts-sam-whitelock-for-all-blacks-return/RPYCVNSUUJAQBGX5XC5SUH6GL4/

              “Sam left an enduring legacy here at the Crusaders, and we can see that in the quality of locks we have, now under the tutelage of Scott Barrett,” said chief executive Colin Mansbridge.

              “Once a Crusader, always a Crusader, but as far as we know he’s on a two-year deal with Section Pau.”

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                surf jesus really trying to get the band back together aye? FMD

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                @mariner4life did you hear the one about George Bridge….

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @mariner4life did you hear the one about George Bridge….

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                  @ACT-Crusader is Luke Whitelock available

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @ACT-Crusader is Luke Whitelock available

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @ACT-Crusader is Luke Whitelock available

                    No, but Adam and George are

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

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                      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Are people getting outraged over rumours…or is there a thread of hard evidence that Robertson is begging whitelock to come back??

                      Just the 'Surf Jesus' crew.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Yeah you want your war horses in the RWC year - not in the year after the RWC.

                        Not the point more up sides to young players learning off Whitelock a real test lock than Vaai pretending to be one.
                        Short sighted not looking at the potential overall long term benefits.

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Not the point more up sides to young players learning off Whitelock a real test lock than Vaai pretending to be one.

                        Amen

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          No different than Barrett coming back although he is well past it at least Whitelock was and still is performing.
                          It is obvious the coaching staff do not rate the locking stocks playing in this country very highly ,maybe it is stop gap for a couple of years until the young ones develop and harden up a bit more.
                          Lock is one position the older harder players seem to dominate.
                          Vaai is not a test lock,Holland isn't available yet,Lord is coming through but is injured a lot.
                          Parkinson,Strange,Darry,MSR,IWL not test options in my opinion.Looks a bit bare to me

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                          @Chris

                          Clearly lock is the biggest issue for us over the next couple of seasons.

                          We have Barratt - world class lock, Lord - who has potential, injury prone, inexperienced - Vai’i who needs to improve a huge amount.

                          Holland - not eligible yet

                          Of all the players overseas, Whitelock would make the most sense, help shore up locking position adding depth, mentoring the younger crop of locks coming through to get them ready to become world class.

                          So he would be a player, mentor, pseudo specialist coach

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                          • Windows97W Windows97

                            If your spending time now on a player that isn't going to be there in 4 years time then all you are doing is wasting time you could have spent developing another player.

                            I think the rugby pubic would be more than understanding if we lose a few games but can see a clear developement pathway for new players.

                            Bringing back old war horses and loosing will not go down well.

                            I think Rassie said it right and it was something along the lines of "we'd love to have an 80% winning percentage, but in the years between the RWC you've got to select and take risks on young, new players". I presume so you can build the best team you can by the time the RWC rolls around.

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                            @Windows97

                            Rassie is just trying to excuse the boks not being the dominant side year after year.

                            They have a great RWC record, no doubt about it, but they should be better outside of that as well.

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                              https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/all-blacks-icon-tapped-for-shock-test-comeback/ar-BB1kg4ZD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=35c2a146bf71463b9f7789b760766ac0&ei=19 Seems to be getting a bit of traction. Would not be surprised if a few more are added to this list. Would it be possible to bring Mounga back?

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                surf jesus really trying to get the band back together aye? FMD

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                                  https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/all-blacks-icon-tapped-for-shock-test-comeback/ar-BB1kg4ZD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=35c2a146bf71463b9f7789b760766ac0&ei=19 Seems to be getting a bit of traction. Would not be surprised if a few more are added to this list. Would it be possible to bring Mounga back?

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                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  I'm just waiting for Robertson to start talking up Ma'a Nonu next.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I'm just waiting for Robertson to start talking up Ma'a Nonu next.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I'm just waiting for Robertson to start talking up Ma'a Nonu next.

                                    that’s just silly, he already has Crotty back in Nz and ready to go

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                                    • S SBW1

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/all-blacks-icon-tapped-for-shock-test-comeback/ar-BB1kg4ZD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=35c2a146bf71463b9f7789b760766ac0&ei=19 Seems to be getting a bit of traction. Would not be surprised if a few more are added to this list. Would it be possible to bring Mounga back?

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                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/all-blacks-icon-tapped-for-shock-test-comeback/ar-BB1kg4ZD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=35c2a146bf71463b9f7789b760766ac0&ei=19 Seems to be getting a bit of traction. Would not be surprised if a few more are added to this list. Would it be possible to bring Mounga back?

                                      No he's signed for a few years.

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                                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/all-blacks-icon-tapped-for-shock-test-comeback/ar-BB1kg4ZD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=35c2a146bf71463b9f7789b760766ac0&ei=19 Seems to be getting a bit of traction. Would not be surprised if a few more are added to this list. Would it be possible to bring Mounga back?

                                        No he's signed for a few years.

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                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/all-blacks-icon-tapped-for-shock-test-comeback/ar-BB1kg4ZD?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=35c2a146bf71463b9f7789b760766ac0&ei=19 Seems to be getting a bit of traction. Would not be surprised if a few more are added to this list. Would it be possible to bring Mounga back?

                                        No he's signed for a few years.

                                        Whitelock was signed for 2. So anything is possible, with contract buy outs etc.

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                                          NZR must be rolling in cash if they can buy-out these lucrative overseas contracts.

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