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  • D delicatessen

    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

    It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

    What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

    How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

    Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

    I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.

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    @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

    It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

    What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

    How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

    Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

    No. They have to make one of three actions "immediately": Get up off the ground, play the ball or release the ball.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

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      Tim
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      @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

      Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.

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      • TimT Tim

        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

        Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.

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        @Tim the Rebels are now ahead of the Chiefs now on the table. Holy heck.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Tim the Rebels are now ahead of the Chiefs now on the table. Holy heck.

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          #916

          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @Tim the Rebels are now ahead of the Chiefs now on the table. Holy heck.

          Crazy, this is their last season too. Can't be much argument this session that Ozzie deserve 5 teams with saders and Landers cellar dwellers with force

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Tim the Rebels are now ahead of the Chiefs now on the table. Holy heck.

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            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @Tim the Rebels are now ahead of the Chiefs now on the table. Holy heck.

            Sometimes adversity galvanises - perhaps the Highlanders should be placed into administration and we can hope for vast improvement?

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              Clipboard_04-13-2024_01.png

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                Go Moana haha. Coming 11th is a success for us.

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                • TimT Away
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                  Tim
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                  The run home:

                  Hurricanes

                  Drua (A), Brumbies (A), Waratahs (H), Blues (A), MP (H), Chiefs (A), Highlanders (H)

                  Blues

                  Brumbies (H), Reds (A), Rebels (A), Hurricanes (H), Highlanders (H), Crusaders (A), Chiefs (H)

                  Brumbies

                  Blues (A), Hurricanes (H), Drua (H), Waratahs (A), Crusaders (H), Rebels (H), Force (A)

                  Rebels

                  Bye, Crusaders (A), Blues (H), Reds (A), Chiefs (H), Brumbies (A), Drua (A)

                  Chiefs

                  Bye, Waratahs (A), Force (H), MP (A), Rebels (A), Hurricanes (H), Blues (A)

                  Reds

                  Highlanders (H), Blues (H), Crusaders (A), Rebels (H), Drua (A), Force (H), Waratahs (A)

                  Drua

                  Hurricanes (H), MP (H), Brumbies (A), Force (A), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Rebels (H)

                  Moana Pasifika

                  Bye, Drua (A), Highlanders (H), Chiefs (H), Hurricanes (A), Waratahs (H), Crusaders (A)

                  Waratahs

                  Bye, Chiefs (H), Hurricanes (A), Brumbies (H), Force (A), MP (A), Reds (H)

                  Highlanders

                  Reds (A), Force (H), MP (A), Crusaders (H), Blues (A), Drua (H), Hurricanes (A)

                  Crusaders

                  Force (A), Rebels (H), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Brumbies (A), Blues (H), MP (H)

                  Force

                  Crusaders (H), Highlaners (A), Chiefs (A), Drua (H), Waratahs (H), Reds (A), Brumbies (H)

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    #921

                    Teams will need five or six wins to make the playoffs, so it's going to be a tight fit at the bottom.

                    Brumbies will get a hiding next week (low tackle percentage), but might have the easiest run home.

                    The Rebels (five wins, four bonus points) are in some danger of dropping out with their tough run home. Their most winnable games might all be away fixtures: Crusaders, Reds, Brumbies, Drua. They may only need one more bonus point to clinch a playoff spot though.

                    The Chiefs have four very winnable games left, and will probably get a home quarter final.

                    The Reds (three wins, five bonus points) will target the Highlanders (H), Crusaders (A), Rebels (H), Force (H), and Waratahs (A), and should just squeak home.

                    That leaves two more places in the playoffs.

                    The Drua (three wins) only have one bonus point, so will need three wins. MP, Reds, and Rebels are all at home.

                    MP have the same wins and BPs, but one less game remaining. They have a tough run home and may well dip out.

                    The Tahs have two wins and four bonus points. They will target these four games: Brumbies (H), Force (A), MP (A), Reds (H). Three from four plus a bonus point or two is a tough ask. Probably miss out.

                    The Highlanders have two wins and three bonus points. Five of their games are winnable: Reds (A), Force (H), MP (A), Crusaders (H), Drua (H). Probably win three. Real danger of missing out. Crusaders game is huge for their season.

                    Crusaders: one (1) win, three bonus points. Remaining games: Force (A), Rebels (H), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Brumbies (A), Blues (H), MP (H). If they can beat the Force (A), Rebels (H), Reds (H), and MP (H) then they have a chance. Hasn't happened this year though.

                    Force: isn't happening.

                    Predictions?

                    Hurricanes
                    Blues
                    Brumbies
                    Chiefs
                    Reds
                    Rebels
                    Drua
                    Highlanders

                    Six wins could well be the dividing line.

                    Hurricanes vs. Blues final. Defence wins big matches. 😉

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                      Tim
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                      Not sure why the Chiefs are still favourites. A McKenzie injury is a huge risk for them too. For the Blues, prop injuries are a worry.

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                        #923

                        Holy shit, the Chiefs odds are a fucking joke

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          Holy shit, the Chiefs odds are a fucking joke

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                          Tim
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                          #924

                          @gt12 Some of the selections this year have been a bit odd. Is Parker injured? He should have started ahead of Sititi.

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                            Tim
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                            Imagine destroying the second best team in NZ, and the biggest and most passionate rivalry in NZ rugby, just so you could maintain the shittiest team in one of NZ's absolute shit towns that only had 100 thousand people on a good day. Fuck NZR, and get rid of the Highlanders as soon as possible. Disgusting.

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                              Tim
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                              20% of NZ's professional players in an absolute shit town. So stupid.

                              Could have had a massive cross town rivalry, but destroyed it for moron reasons.

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                                Tim
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                                I will never stop being angry about this.

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                                  Tim
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                                  What was done to Harbour will never be forgiven.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    What was done to Harbour will never be forgiven.

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                                    #929

                                    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    What was done to Harbour will never be forgiven.

                                    Thanks for finally telling us what the actual fuck you were ranting about haha, I had no idea

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @gt12 Some of the selections this year have been a bit odd. Is Parker injured? He should have started ahead of Sititi.

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                                      taniwharugby
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                                      @Tim Parker played in thier dev team.

                                      Bit tough he keeps getting played at 7, when he ain't one.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

                                        Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        #931

                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

                                        Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.

                                        And last year the Chiefs were undefeated away from home.

                                        I think it's more about winning the games that count, as the Blues and Chiefs fans know.

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                                          Daffy Jaffy
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                                          Highlanders and Blues tasks of beating the Reds away just got a bit easier -

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350246598/wallabies-tate-mcdermott-and-fraser-mcreight-cop-three-week-suspensions

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