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Super Rugby 2024

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  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #920

    The run home:

    Hurricanes

    Drua (A), Brumbies (A), Waratahs (H), Blues (A), MP (H), Chiefs (A), Highlanders (H)

    Blues

    Brumbies (H), Reds (A), Rebels (A), Hurricanes (H), Highlanders (H), Crusaders (A), Chiefs (H)

    Brumbies

    Blues (A), Hurricanes (H), Drua (H), Waratahs (A), Crusaders (H), Rebels (H), Force (A)

    Rebels

    Bye, Crusaders (A), Blues (H), Reds (A), Chiefs (H), Brumbies (A), Drua (A)

    Chiefs

    Bye, Waratahs (A), Force (H), MP (A), Rebels (A), Hurricanes (H), Blues (A)

    Reds

    Highlanders (H), Blues (H), Crusaders (A), Rebels (H), Drua (A), Force (H), Waratahs (A)

    Drua

    Hurricanes (H), MP (H), Brumbies (A), Force (A), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Rebels (H)

    Moana Pasifika

    Bye, Drua (A), Highlanders (H), Chiefs (H), Hurricanes (A), Waratahs (H), Crusaders (A)

    Waratahs

    Bye, Chiefs (H), Hurricanes (A), Brumbies (H), Force (A), MP (A), Reds (H)

    Highlanders

    Reds (A), Force (H), MP (A), Crusaders (H), Blues (A), Drua (H), Hurricanes (A)

    Crusaders

    Force (A), Rebels (H), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Brumbies (A), Blues (H), MP (H)

    Force

    Crusaders (H), Highlaners (A), Chiefs (A), Drua (H), Waratahs (H), Reds (A), Brumbies (H)

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    • TimT Away
      TimT Away
      Tim
      wrote on last edited by Tim
      #921

      Teams will need five or six wins to make the playoffs, so it's going to be a tight fit at the bottom.

      Brumbies will get a hiding next week (low tackle percentage), but might have the easiest run home.

      The Rebels (five wins, four bonus points) are in some danger of dropping out with their tough run home. Their most winnable games might all be away fixtures: Crusaders, Reds, Brumbies, Drua. They may only need one more bonus point to clinch a playoff spot though.

      The Chiefs have four very winnable games left, and will probably get a home quarter final.

      The Reds (three wins, five bonus points) will target the Highlanders (H), Crusaders (A), Rebels (H), Force (H), and Waratahs (A), and should just squeak home.

      That leaves two more places in the playoffs.

      The Drua (three wins) only have one bonus point, so will need three wins. MP, Reds, and Rebels are all at home.

      MP have the same wins and BPs, but one less game remaining. They have a tough run home and may well dip out.

      The Tahs have two wins and four bonus points. They will target these four games: Brumbies (H), Force (A), MP (A), Reds (H). Three from four plus a bonus point or two is a tough ask. Probably miss out.

      The Highlanders have two wins and three bonus points. Five of their games are winnable: Reds (A), Force (H), MP (A), Crusaders (H), Drua (H). Probably win three. Real danger of missing out. Crusaders game is huge for their season.

      Crusaders: one (1) win, three bonus points. Remaining games: Force (A), Rebels (H), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Brumbies (A), Blues (H), MP (H). If they can beat the Force (A), Rebels (H), Reds (H), and MP (H) then they have a chance. Hasn't happened this year though.

      Force: isn't happening.

      Predictions?

      Hurricanes
      Blues
      Brumbies
      Chiefs
      Reds
      Rebels
      Drua
      Highlanders

      Six wins could well be the dividing line.

      Hurricanes vs. Blues final. Defence wins big matches. 😉

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      • TimT Away
        TimT Away
        Tim
        wrote on last edited by
        #922

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        Not sure why the Chiefs are still favourites. A McKenzie injury is a huge risk for them too. For the Blues, prop injuries are a worry.

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        • gt12G Offline
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          gt12
          wrote on last edited by
          #923

          Holy shit, the Chiefs odds are a fucking joke

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          • gt12G gt12

            Holy shit, the Chiefs odds are a fucking joke

            TimT Away
            TimT Away
            Tim
            wrote on last edited by
            #924

            @gt12 Some of the selections this year have been a bit odd. Is Parker injured? He should have started ahead of Sititi.

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            • TimT Away
              TimT Away
              Tim
              wrote on last edited by
              #925

              Imagine destroying the second best team in NZ, and the biggest and most passionate rivalry in NZ rugby, just so you could maintain the shittiest team in one of NZ's absolute shit towns that only had 100 thousand people on a good day. Fuck NZR, and get rid of the Highlanders as soon as possible. Disgusting.

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              • TimT Away
                TimT Away
                Tim
                wrote on last edited by
                #926

                20% of NZ's professional players in an absolute shit town. So stupid.

                Could have had a massive cross town rivalry, but destroyed it for moron reasons.

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                • TimT Away
                  TimT Away
                  Tim
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #927

                  I will never stop being angry about this.

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                  • TimT Away
                    TimT Away
                    Tim
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #928

                    What was done to Harbour will never be forgiven.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      What was done to Harbour will never be forgiven.

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                      Machpants
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #929

                      @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                      What was done to Harbour will never be forgiven.

                      Thanks for finally telling us what the actual fuck you were ranting about haha, I had no idea

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @gt12 Some of the selections this year have been a bit odd. Is Parker injured? He should have started ahead of Sititi.

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                        taniwharugby
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #930

                        @Tim Parker played in thier dev team.

                        Bit tough he keeps getting played at 7, when he ain't one.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

                          Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.

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                          Bovidae
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #931

                          @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          @Duluth Given the Chiefs' poor away form so far, that must be a concern for them.

                          Chiefs have lost all their away games so far.

                          And last year the Chiefs were undefeated away from home.

                          I think it's more about winning the games that count, as the Blues and Chiefs fans know.

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                          • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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                            Daffy Jaffy
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #932

                            Highlanders and Blues tasks of beating the Reds away just got a bit easier -

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350246598/wallabies-tate-mcdermott-and-fraser-mcreight-cop-three-week-suspensions

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                              antipodean
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #933

                              https://twitter.com/SuperRugby/status/1780003177993228321

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                                Machpants
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #934

                                https://y.yarn.co/34640a2e-cfc5-44b0-84d1-80b9bc83a332_text.gif

                                Actually, we all know it will be two 🙄

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                                • antipodeanA Online
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                                  antipodean
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #935

                                  Given the table, should NZR be questioning the wisdom of having a SR franchise in the South Island?

                                  image.png

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Online
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                                    Kiwiwomble
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #936

                                    lets not forget that the crusaders and highlanders have won half of all super rugby titles (13/26) between them :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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                                    • D delicatessen

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                      It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                      What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

                                      How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

                                      Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

                                      I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.

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                                      Dan54
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #937

                                      @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @Bones said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      Ball carriers hitting the ground as a result of a tackle attempt, being millimetres out of someone's grasp and being allowed to get up and go again, because they weren't "held".

                                      It's happening way too much in super rugby this year - at least fucken make them release the ball if they've hit the ground, but this isn't happening.

                                      What's the law here? Just need to touch ball carrier when he's tackled? In which case they're well within their rights to do what you're saying. A miss is as good as a mile.

                                      How did they end up on the ground? What's the law on not releasing the ball when on the ground?

                                      Was genuinely asking. Presumably the 'not held' call means a tackle hasn't been completed. If someone falls over while receiving a deep kick do they have to release the ball?

                                      I would be way more/less sure of my ground if I could be arsed looking up the relevant laws.

                                      No wouldn't have to release ball until somone get's there, he can get up without releasing ball etc as there no tackle involved, and probably as long as he on feet when he catches ball he ok.

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                                      • DuluthD Offline
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                                        Duluth
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #938

                                        How are the Aussie sides doing against NZ opposition?

                                        Aussies vs Matches Aussies Wins
                                        Blues 2 0
                                        Chiefs 2 1
                                        Hurricanes 3 0
                                        Crusaders 2 2
                                        Highlanders 3 2
                                        Total 12 5

                                        A huge improvement from a few years ago. Relatively spread out too with 3 NZ sides losing at least once to an Aussie side

                                        Looking at it from the other direction:

                                        Aussie Team Matches vs NZ Sides Wins vs NZ sides
                                        Brumbies 2 1
                                        Force 2 0
                                        Reds 2 1
                                        Rebels 2 1
                                        Waratahs 4 2
                                        Total 12 5

                                        Again, relatively spread out, 4 of the 5 Aussie sides have picked up a win against NZ opposition

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                                          Machpants
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #939

                                          Little factoid, saders, canes, and Landers are all fielding only one player each in their 23s from last year's RWC squad! Blues are rolling in ABs riches with 5! How often were there only 8 current ABs playing in a round of SR?

                                          Note this is a quick thought reading the team sheets, accuracy not assured

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