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    @family-man said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Anyone think Daniel Rona has a chance of making all black squad?
    Every time I see him play he impresses me,always makes good decisions

    I've been calling for McMillan to start Daniel Rona at 11 over Nanai-Seturo since last year, he's much stronger in contact and is a superior defender than ENS, it also means you can have both Poihipi and Tupaea in the 23 (assuming ALB starts at centre).

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    @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I've been calling for McMillan to start Daniel Rona at 11 over Nanai-Seturo since last year

    ENS is an important player for the Chiefs and his left boot is used often for exit plays. We hadn't seen Rona used as a winger until this season so how he would go was an unknown.

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      Sounds like there is some hope Finau's injury may not be as bad as feared

      From Clayton McMillian

      “It sounds like it’s going to be OK but probably we will err on the side of caution and rule him out for this week.
      
      “He took a pretty hard bang there and it looked pretty nasty. But [we think] it’s just a good old fashioned bang, not a dislocation, so I’m hoping that’s the case and it’s nothing long-term.”
      

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350267419/samipeni-hitman-finau-injured-chiefs-wallop-force-super-rugby-pacific-match

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        I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

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          The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

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          • F Frank

            I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

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            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

            I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

            Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

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              Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

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                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                He isn't, he never has been

                Havili is, until he met the more physical sides. He was slick, but lacked the physicality.

                For comparison, see Akira - MOTM in a few games, but struggled with SA

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.

                  Toss up between Funaki and Ratima for me. Fakatava not back to his best yet.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

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                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

                    Which is why I think he'll be very conservative in his first few Tests. Good to see the AB coaching set-up and SR coaches working together though.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

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                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                      I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                        I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                        Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                        I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                        I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                        Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                        I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                        • gt12G gt12

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                          I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                          Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                          I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                          I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                          Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                          I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                          Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                            I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                            Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                            I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                            Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

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                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                            I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                            Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                            I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                            Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

                            ….and thats hopefully why he doesn’t pick him.

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                              I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                              Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                              I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                              Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

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                              @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                              There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                                There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

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                                @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                                  There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew
                                  the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                                  Well, I was being ironic.....

                                  There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

                                  .....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....

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                                    I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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                                      @mariner4life

                                      Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

                                        Yeah, if guys like Proctor, Ratima, Finau, any other lock than Vaai are ignored for "known quantities" that will be shithouse.

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                                        • A African Monkey

                                          @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

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                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                                          It’s fun now.

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