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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

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    • F Frank

      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

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      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

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        Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

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          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          He isn't, he never has been

          Havili is, until he met the more physical sides. He was slick, but lacked the physicality.

          For comparison, see Akira - MOTM in a few games, but struggled with SA

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.

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            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.

            Toss up between Funaki and Ratima for me. Fakatava not back to his best yet.

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

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              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.

              Which is why I think he'll be very conservative in his first few Tests. Good to see the AB coaching set-up and SR coaches working together though.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                  I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                  Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                  I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                  I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                  Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                  I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                    I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                    Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                    I'm taking odds on Drummond.

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                    #1826

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                    I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                    Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                    I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                    Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                      I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                      Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                      I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                      Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                      I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                      Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

                      ….and thats hopefully why he doesn’t pick him.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.

                        I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad

                        Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.

                        I'm taking odds on Drummond.

                        Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....

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                        #1828

                        @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                        There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                          There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

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                          @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                            There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Victor-Meldrew
                            the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.

                            Well, I was being ironic.....

                            There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.

                            .....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....

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                              I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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                                @mariner4life

                                Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

                                  Yeah, if guys like Proctor, Ratima, Finau, any other lock than Vaai are ignored for "known quantities" that will be shithouse.

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                                  • A African Monkey

                                    @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

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                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                                    It’s fun now.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.

                                      It’s fun now.

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                                      @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                      Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for they year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

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                                      • A African Monkey

                                        @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                        Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for they year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                        Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                        It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                          Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                          It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

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                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                                          Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                                          It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                                          Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?

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