All Blacks 2024
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The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He isn't, he never has been
Havili is, until he met the more physical sides. He was slick, but lacked the physicality.
For comparison, see Akira - MOTM in a few games, but struggled with SA
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Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Fakatava is really an international rookie too. Less than 40 mins of test rugby so far. TJP, Christie and another I think.
Toss up between Funaki and Ratima for me. Fakatava not back to his best yet.
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The most concerning thing for me about Robertson wanting Havili at 10 is that he still seems to think Havili is a test quality player. He isn't, he never has been, and he has been ruthlessly exploited by the top teams time and again. There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
There may be a steep learning curve for Robertson as he finds out his Super stars actually can't cut it a level up.
Which is why I think he'll be very conservative in his first few Tests. Good to see the AB coaching set-up and SR coaches working together though.
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@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....
….and thats hopefully why he doesn’t pick him.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I think Funaki's excellent play might mean he gets the 3rd AB halfback spot along with Perenara and Ratima.
I can't see Razor picking two rookie 9s in his first test squad
Christie or Fakatava will be in the squad.
I'm taking odds on Drummond.
Could make sense. Robertson knows Drummond's capabilities better than anyone....
@Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.
There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.
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@Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.
There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.
@Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.
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@Victor-Meldrew the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.
There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew
the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.Well, I was being ironic.....
There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.
.....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....
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I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too
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I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too
Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.
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I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too
Yeah, if guys like Proctor, Ratima, Finau, any other lock than Vaai are ignored for "known quantities" that will be shithouse.
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@Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.
It’s fun now.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life The reaction would be fun to watch though.
It’s fun now.
@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for they year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
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@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for they year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.
Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.
Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!
Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.
Foster thread only got locked this year didn't it?
That was just an entree compared to test selections during Crusader-blacks or when the Cantabs packed a sad and supported Oz under Robbie Deans.
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I'll give Razor a pass if he's conservative in his first couple of squads.
It look Henry, Hansen and Smith the best part of a year to figure out their best team
The first couple of squads in 2004 had the likes of Xavier Rush and Jono Gibbes etc - excellent Super servants but not answers at test level over the long haul.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew
the only way Drummond will be an AB this year is if the 8 or so halfbacks in front of him get injured.Well, I was being ironic.....
There is going to be a huge uproar if Razor picks an AB squad full of guys with limited 'capabilities'.
.....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
.....Imagine a Drummond/Havili axis.....
@ACT-Crusader can give you the 2024 version of the ABs. The next player on the list is obviously McLeod.
