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Blues 2024

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    #753

    If they have a contract with NZR, then they should be eligible to play.

    Is someone who injures themselves in pre-season but comes right in time for a final eligible to play finals?

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      If they have a contract with NZR, then they should be eligible to play.

      Is someone who injures themselves in pre-season but comes right in time for a final eligible to play finals?

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      #754

      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2024:

      Is someone who injures themselves in pre-season but comes right in time for a final eligible to play finals?

      Yes

      This restriction is only for offshore players ( @machpants missed that in his summary ). So the Blues could call up loads of people to replace Sullivan. The Crusaders couldn't use Afoa in the finals last year because he'd just returned to NZ

      That's why I questioned what the intent of this rule is

      I presume the Blues are questioning if sabbatical players are really offshore players given they were always under NZR contract. I'm sure they probably are but it is worth clarifying.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2024:

        Is someone who injures themselves in pre-season but comes right in time for a final eligible to play finals?

        Yes

        This restriction is only for offshore players ( @machpants missed that in his summary ). So the Blues could call up loads of people to replace Sullivan. The Crusaders couldn't use Afoa in the finals last year because he'd just returned to NZ

        That's why I questioned what the intent of this rule is

        I presume the Blues are questioning if sabbatical players are really offshore players given they were always under NZR contract. I'm sure they probably are but it is worth clarifying.

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        @Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.

        Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.

          Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?

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          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2024:

          @Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.

          Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?

          Good point, I guess the new unit in Sydney would be responsible, but since it is barely started I don't think they've changed any rules since SANZAAR

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @antipodean not at all, I was at the time obviously but Beaudy is a little over-hyped these days. The media make it sound like he’s in the prime of his career, he’s isn’t, which is why he reverts to kicking the ball away all the time because he doesn’t have the speed to get him out of trouble like he used to.

            I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him. I think it would just be a big middle finger to the rest of the teams in the comp.

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            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

            I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him.

            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

            I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

            Sort it out mate.

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            • DuluthD Offline
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              #758

              An article about Plummer:

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific-harry-plummer-rises-as-unheralded-playmaker-guiding-blues-title-quest/

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                An article about Plummer:

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific-harry-plummer-rises-as-unheralded-playmaker-guiding-blues-title-quest/

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                @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

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                • M Machpants

                  It is not an NZR Rule it is a SANZAAR rule, as it is their competition. And the rules are set, if you don't play before 1 April in the comp you can't play the finals - unless special circumstances. Like the Tahs, having lost 395 props, they would be allowed to bring someone else in if they were in the finals. I doubt the Blues are in the same boat with 1st fives/fullbacks. If another goes down, they might, but they have a couple and that's enough.
                  I don't have a problem with anyone coming in at any time. If a team thinks that bringing Dupont in for the finals is going to improve their team, I really doubt it. A full on ringer would be a problem in most cases, unless (like Cane, Beaudy) they have already spent significant time with the team

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                  @Machpants said in Blues 2024:

                  It is not an NZR Rule it is a SANZAAR rule, as it is their competition. And the rules are set, if you don't play before 1 April in the comp you can't play the finals - unless special circumstances.

                  This

                  Its a VG rule and it should be retained and followed. C4L mentioned Ardie and I agree. Bringing him back and dropping say Iose would undermine super rugby. Just when the crowds are coming back

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                    Worth noting the rule wouldn’t prevent the Blues theoretically calling up someone like Cruden (doubt he’d say yes)

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

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                      @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                      @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

                      Yeah he had a lot of bad luck early. His general play was judged harder too because he had the goal kicking yips

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                        @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

                        Yeah he had a lot of bad luck early. His general play was judged harder too because he had the goal kicking yips

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                        @Duluth He has also put some distance on his punting this year

                        I'm wondering if working with O'Halloran has helped

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                        • ChrisC Offline
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                          I guess this puts this speculation to bed.
                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350290854/blues-bold-bid-bring-back-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett-fails

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                            #765

                            Good

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              Good

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              good

                              Good.

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                              • DuluthD Offline
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                                #767

                                They should call Cruden. He passes these regulations

                                Currently only two fit 10s in the squad

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                                  Not surprised. Blues bid to get Beaudy for the playoffs has failed.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350290854/blues-bold-bid-bring-back-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett-fails

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                                    #769

                                    Taranaki tighthead prop (and ex Sacred Heart), Crusader Faletagoai, is playing club rugby for College Rifles in Auckland. Injury cover?

                                    edit: He's also in the Auckland NPC Contenders squad, so maybe coming back to Auckland?

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                                      https://twitter.com/bluesrugbyteam/status/1795582913989538053?s=46&t=EYN5FheJjaTxEsIo6aGhhA

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                                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                                        https://twitter.com/bluesrugbyteam/status/1795582913989538053?s=46&t=EYN5FheJjaTxEsIo6aGhhA

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                                        @Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed

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                                          @Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed

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                                          @nzzp said in Blues 2024:

                                          @Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed

                                          I’ve always been a fan, but this is the first year I’ve thought he could be an All Black. A ten that can tackle is a novelty these days.

                                          His kicking game has been awesome.

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