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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.

    Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2024:

    @Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.

    Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?

    Good point, I guess the new unit in Sydney would be responsible, but since it is barely started I don't think they've changed any rules since SANZAAR

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @antipodean not at all, I was at the time obviously but Beaudy is a little over-hyped these days. The media make it sound like he’s in the prime of his career, he’s isn’t, which is why he reverts to kicking the ball away all the time because he doesn’t have the speed to get him out of trouble like he used to.

      I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him. I think it would just be a big middle finger to the rest of the teams in the comp.

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      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

      I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him.

      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

      I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.

      Sort it out mate.

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        An article about Plummer:

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific-harry-plummer-rises-as-unheralded-playmaker-guiding-blues-title-quest/

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          An article about Plummer:

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific-harry-plummer-rises-as-unheralded-playmaker-guiding-blues-title-quest/

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          @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

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          • M Machpants

            It is not an NZR Rule it is a SANZAAR rule, as it is their competition. And the rules are set, if you don't play before 1 April in the comp you can't play the finals - unless special circumstances. Like the Tahs, having lost 395 props, they would be allowed to bring someone else in if they were in the finals. I doubt the Blues are in the same boat with 1st fives/fullbacks. If another goes down, they might, but they have a couple and that's enough.
            I don't have a problem with anyone coming in at any time. If a team thinks that bringing Dupont in for the finals is going to improve their team, I really doubt it. A full on ringer would be a problem in most cases, unless (like Cane, Beaudy) they have already spent significant time with the team

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            @Machpants said in Blues 2024:

            It is not an NZR Rule it is a SANZAAR rule, as it is their competition. And the rules are set, if you don't play before 1 April in the comp you can't play the finals - unless special circumstances.

            This

            Its a VG rule and it should be retained and followed. C4L mentioned Ardie and I agree. Bringing him back and dropping say Iose would undermine super rugby. Just when the crowds are coming back

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              Worth noting the rule wouldn’t prevent the Blues theoretically calling up someone like Cruden (doubt he’d say yes)

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

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                @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

                Yeah he had a lot of bad luck early. His general play was judged harder too because he had the goal kicking yips

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                  @Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.

                  Yeah he had a lot of bad luck early. His general play was judged harder too because he had the goal kicking yips

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                  @Duluth He has also put some distance on his punting this year

                  I'm wondering if working with O'Halloran has helped

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                    I guess this puts this speculation to bed.
                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350290854/blues-bold-bid-bring-back-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett-fails

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                      Good

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        Good

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        good

                        Good.

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                          They should call Cruden. He passes these regulations

                          Currently only two fit 10s in the squad

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                            Not surprised. Blues bid to get Beaudy for the playoffs has failed.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350290854/blues-bold-bid-bring-back-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett-fails

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                              Taranaki tighthead prop (and ex Sacred Heart), Crusader Faletagoai, is playing club rugby for College Rifles in Auckland. Injury cover?

                              edit: He's also in the Auckland NPC Contenders squad, so maybe coming back to Auckland?

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                                https://twitter.com/bluesrugbyteam/status/1795582913989538053?s=46&t=EYN5FheJjaTxEsIo6aGhhA

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  https://twitter.com/bluesrugbyteam/status/1795582913989538053?s=46&t=EYN5FheJjaTxEsIo6aGhhA

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                                  @Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed

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                                    @Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed

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                                    @nzzp said in Blues 2024:

                                    @Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed

                                    I’ve always been a fan, but this is the first year I’ve thought he could be an All Black. A ten that can tackle is a novelty these days.

                                    His kicking game has been awesome.

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                                      Excellent choice. I think he has to be very very close to an AB jersey - I'd actually like to see how he would go at that level given his body size and capability to cover 12.

                                      My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        Excellent choice. I think he has to be very very close to an AB jersey - I'd actually like to see how he would go at that level given his body size and capability to cover 12.

                                        My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.

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                                        @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

                                        My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.

                                        We already know the answer

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

                                          My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.

                                          We already know the answer

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                                          @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                                          @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

                                          My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.

                                          We already know the answer

                                          I think we do, but it's an interesting test. To be fair, if they pick Havili as a 12 who covers 10, maybe that's justified if they go with Dmac, Barrett, Perofeta.

                                          I personally would select Plummer ahead of Perofeta as this stage though, and if they choose 3 10s, we don't really need extra 10 cover.

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