Blues 2024
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@taniwharugby said in Blues 2024:
Is someone who injures themselves in pre-season but comes right in time for a final eligible to play finals?
Yes
This restriction is only for offshore players ( @machpants missed that in his summary ). So the Blues could call up loads of people to replace Sullivan. The Crusaders couldn't use Afoa in the finals last year because he'd just returned to NZ
That's why I questioned what the intent of this rule is
I presume the Blues are questioning if sabbatical players are really offshore players given they were always under NZR contract. I'm sure they probably are but it is worth clarifying.
@Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.
Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?
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@Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.
Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?
@taniwharugby said in Blues 2024:
@Duluth yeah for my mind, if they are contracted to NZR, then it is all moot, they are eligible for NZ teams.
Although comp rules may see it differently, as an aside, @Machpants mentions SANZAR, is it still SANZAR given there is no SA in there now?
Good point, I guess the new unit in Sydney would be responsible, but since it is barely started I don't think they've changed any rules since SANZAAR
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@antipodean not at all, I was at the time obviously but Beaudy is a little over-hyped these days. The media make it sound like he’s in the prime of his career, he’s isn’t, which is why he reverts to kicking the ball away all the time because he doesn’t have the speed to get him out of trouble like he used to.
I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him. I think it would just be a big middle finger to the rest of the teams in the comp.
@Canes4life said in Blues 2024:
I would laugh so hard if the Blues pushed to get him into the 23 and then he F’d it up for them in the final. He’s cracked under pressure a lot in recent years, so you’re more than welcome to him.
@Canes4life said in Blues 2024:
I’ve got no problem him playing in the round robin as injury cover but he should have no right to play in the playoffs, would be a complete joke.
Sort it out mate.
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It is not an NZR Rule it is a SANZAAR rule, as it is their competition. And the rules are set, if you don't play before 1 April in the comp you can't play the finals - unless special circumstances. Like the Tahs, having lost 395 props, they would be allowed to bring someone else in if they were in the finals. I doubt the Blues are in the same boat with 1st fives/fullbacks. If another goes down, they might, but they have a couple and that's enough.
I don't have a problem with anyone coming in at any time. If a team thinks that bringing Dupont in for the finals is going to improve their team, I really doubt it. A full on ringer would be a problem in most cases, unless (like Cane, Beaudy) they have already spent significant time with the team@Machpants said in Blues 2024:
It is not an NZR Rule it is a SANZAAR rule, as it is their competition. And the rules are set, if you don't play before 1 April in the comp you can't play the finals - unless special circumstances.
This
Its a VG rule and it should be retained and followed. C4L mentioned Ardie and I agree. Bringing him back and dropping say Iose would undermine super rugby. Just when the crowds are coming back
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@KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:
@Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.
Yeah he had a lot of bad luck early. His general play was judged harder too because he had the goal kicking yips
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@KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:
@Duluth A very nice read. So pleased for Plummer.
Yeah he had a lot of bad luck early. His general play was judged harder too because he had the goal kicking yips
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I guess this puts this speculation to bed.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350290854/blues-bold-bid-bring-back-all-blacks-star-beauden-barrett-fails -
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Good
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Not surprised. Blues bid to get Beaudy for the playoffs has failed.
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@Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed
@nzzp said in Blues 2024:
@Kirwan well deserved. He's really perservered and seeing the benefits now. Stoked to see him succeed
I’ve always been a fan, but this is the first year I’ve thought he could be an All Black. A ten that can tackle is a novelty these days.
His kicking game has been awesome.
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Excellent choice. I think he has to be very very close to an AB jersey - I'd actually like to see how he would go at that level given his body size and capability to cover 12.
My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.
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Excellent choice. I think he has to be very very close to an AB jersey - I'd actually like to see how he would go at that level given his body size and capability to cover 12.
My guess is that he is in competition with Havili for the inside back utility role. It will be interesting to see who they go with there.
