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    Old Samurai Jack
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    Reckon Taylor will be there.

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      pakman
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      #2427

      I'd expect Scooter, Patty and Tupou all to be in the 23. We are really short a top level middle of the lineout operator.

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        Lomax
        Samisoni T
        De Groot
        Barrett
        Patty T
        Paps
        Finau
        Savea
        Perenara
        DMac
        Narewa
        Jordie
        R Ioane
        Telea
        Love

        Fairly straight forward

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        @BerniesCorner About right, I agree with your choices in the forwards.

        But I think Caleb Clarke is worth picking instead of Narewa. Billy Proctor might edge out Reiko Ioane. The rest of the backline is fairly obvious.

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          BerniesCorner
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          With the modern game there is the luxury of subbing players at 60 minutes to see how they go.
          Sotutu for Savea, Proctor for R Ioane, Vaa'i for Patty and bring on Numia.
          Overall things are looking good.

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          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

            With the modern game there is the luxury of subbing players at 60 minutes to see how they go.
            Sotutu for Savea, Proctor for R Ioane, Vaa'i for Patty and bring on Numia.
            Overall things are looking good.

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            @BerniesCorner

            I think they are looking very promising overall, outside of a couple of positions such as lock and 10.

            The lock depth is probably a 12-18 month project to give experience to players such as Lord,Darry,Vaai and then bring Holland into the squad when available.

            I think Party T will be in the mix and eventually may be the closest replacement to Barratt when required so I can see him having a couple of seasons with the ABs.

            The forward pack is shaping up to be very strong in every other position.

            10 is an issue as we know. I look forward to DMac starting (and staying fit!)

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              Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

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              • FrankF Frank

                Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

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                @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

                Clarke is an out and out left winger so it’s between Tele’a, Narawa and Reece for the 14 jersey. The latter 3 can play on the left if needed but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  i would go 11. Telea 14. Reece

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                    After watching the Crusaders-Blues game yesterday (I wasn't able to see live) I hope that Tuipulotu can translate that ball-carrying to the ABs on a consistent basis. It's not like our likely starting props offer that.

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                      i would go 11. Telea 14. Reece

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                      Canes4life
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                      #2435

                      @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                      If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                      1. De Groot
                      2. Taylor
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Barrett
                      5. Tuipolotu
                      6. Finau
                      7. Papali'i
                      8. Savea (C) 🙂
                      9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                      10. McKenzie
                      11. Telea
                      12. Barrett
                      13. Ioane
                      14. Reece
                      15. Love
                      16. Aumua
                      17. Williams
                      18. Newell
                      19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                      20. Sotutu
                      21. Ratima
                      22. Barrett
                      23. Proctor

                      Rest of the squad for me would be:
                      24. Taukei'aho
                      25. Numia
                      26. Tu'ungafasi
                      27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                      28. Lakai
                      29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                      30. Funaki
                      31. Leinert-Brown
                      32. Clarke

                      Squad reserves:
                      33. another lock
                      34. Jacobsen
                      35. Plummer
                      36. Stevenson

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                        If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                        1. De Groot
                        2. Taylor
                        3. Lomax
                        4. Barrett
                        5. Tuipolotu
                        6. Finau
                        7. Papali'i
                        8. Savea (C) 🙂
                        9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                        10. McKenzie
                        11. Telea
                        12. Barrett
                        13. Ioane
                        14. Reece
                        15. Love
                        16. Aumua
                        17. Williams
                        18. Newell
                        19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                        20. Sotutu
                        21. Ratima
                        22. Barrett
                        23. Proctor

                        Rest of the squad for me would be:
                        24. Taukei'aho
                        25. Numia
                        26. Tu'ungafasi
                        27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                        28. Lakai
                        29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                        30. Funaki
                        31. Leinert-Brown
                        32. Clarke

                        Squad reserves:
                        33. another lock
                        34. Jacobsen
                        35. Plummer
                        36. Stevenson

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                        #2436

                        @Canes4life to be clear, clarke still in and around the squad, i just feel Telea and Reece provide a more variety game plan wise and what im really hoping too see is more tailored approach when it comes to game plan, not just try the same thing against everyone

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @Canes4life to be clear, clarke still in and around the squad, i just feel Telea and Reece provide a more variety game plan wise and what im really hoping too see is more tailored approach when it comes to game plan, not just try the same thing against everyone

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                          @Kiwiwomble Telea and Reece, though not the biggest wingers are very very elusive and strong in contact. Reece is the best winger in Super Rugby and deserves his chance after being injured last year.

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                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Hotham has to be close with Roigard injured, he’s been the best halfback in SR the past month

                            I would think Hotham is also the closest to Roigard as a running HB.

                            He is proving to be quite smart in his decisions around when to run. I also like the way he is still managing to clear the ball while under pressure and at times actually having players hanging off him after they have come through the ruck.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Hotham has to be close with Roigard injured, he’s been the best halfback in SR the past month

                            I would think Hotham is also the closest to Roigard as a running HB.

                            He is proving to be quite smart in his decisions around when to run. I also like the way he is still managing to clear the ball while under pressure and at times actually having players hanging off him after they have come through the ruck.

                            Also he been earmarked by NZR for a couple of years, can see him getting a peek, at leat for A team

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                              No Quarter
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                              The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                                The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                                His kickoff work is really useful too

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                                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                                  His kickoff work is really useful too

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                                  #2441

                                  @Duluth this is why this AB squad announcement is so intriguing. Roberston could go a few ways for most of the positions and it would be hard to argue with. There is going to be a lot of talented players that will be disappointed at 5pm on July 24.

                                  The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

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                                    @Duluth this is why this AB squad announcement is so intriguing. Roberston could go a few ways for most of the positions and it would be hard to argue with. There is going to be a lot of talented players that will be disappointed at 5pm on July 24.

                                    The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

                                    Irrelevant for the England series though as they tour later in the year.

                                    The Māori ABs play a Japan XV during the June/July window so many who miss out on the AB squad will be involved in that.

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                                      Windows97
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                                      It really just shows what a horrible year Stevenson's had given everyones form XV has Love starting at 15 now.

                                      Somehow hes managed to make his defence even worse this year, seems to have lost his try scoring touch and his much vanuted kicking game has dissapointed.

                                      Was his year to make a massive claim on the jersey especaily with Jordan getting injured so early and boy - has he missed.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                                        He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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                                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                          With the modern game there is the luxury of subbing players at 60 minutes to see how they go.
                                          Sotutu for Savea, Proctor for R Ioane, Vaa'i for Patty and bring on Numia.
                                          Overall things are looking good.

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                                          @BerniesCorner

                                          I agree, very good players coming through in almost every position, not all of them will make it through to be world-class Test player but a few will. I think the 2027 squad will be very strong indeed.

                                          The problem position for me is 10. For whatever reason, the NZ system is struggling badly at the minute to produce First Fives of any real quality.

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