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  • FrankF Frank

    Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

    Clarke is an out and out left winger so it’s between Tele’a, Narawa and Reece for the 14 jersey. The latter 3 can play on the left if needed but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

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      i would go 11. Telea 14. Reece

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        After watching the Crusaders-Blues game yesterday (I wasn't able to see live) I hope that Tuipulotu can translate that ball-carrying to the ABs on a consistent basis. It's not like our likely starting props offer that.

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          i would go 11. Telea 14. Reece

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          @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

          If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

          1. De Groot
          2. Taylor
          3. Lomax
          4. Barrett
          5. Tuipolotu
          6. Finau
          7. Papali'i
          8. Savea (C) 🙂
          9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
          10. McKenzie
          11. Telea
          12. Barrett
          13. Ioane
          14. Reece
          15. Love
          16. Aumua
          17. Williams
          18. Newell
          19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
          20. Sotutu
          21. Ratima
          22. Barrett
          23. Proctor

          Rest of the squad for me would be:
          24. Taukei'aho
          25. Numia
          26. Tu'ungafasi
          27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
          28. Lakai
          29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
          30. Funaki
          31. Leinert-Brown
          32. Clarke

          Squad reserves:
          33. another lock
          34. Jacobsen
          35. Plummer
          36. Stevenson

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

            If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

            1. De Groot
            2. Taylor
            3. Lomax
            4. Barrett
            5. Tuipolotu
            6. Finau
            7. Papali'i
            8. Savea (C) 🙂
            9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
            10. McKenzie
            11. Telea
            12. Barrett
            13. Ioane
            14. Reece
            15. Love
            16. Aumua
            17. Williams
            18. Newell
            19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
            20. Sotutu
            21. Ratima
            22. Barrett
            23. Proctor

            Rest of the squad for me would be:
            24. Taukei'aho
            25. Numia
            26. Tu'ungafasi
            27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
            28. Lakai
            29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
            30. Funaki
            31. Leinert-Brown
            32. Clarke

            Squad reserves:
            33. another lock
            34. Jacobsen
            35. Plummer
            36. Stevenson

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            @Canes4life to be clear, clarke still in and around the squad, i just feel Telea and Reece provide a more variety game plan wise and what im really hoping too see is more tailored approach when it comes to game plan, not just try the same thing against everyone

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @Canes4life to be clear, clarke still in and around the squad, i just feel Telea and Reece provide a more variety game plan wise and what im really hoping too see is more tailored approach when it comes to game plan, not just try the same thing against everyone

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              @Kiwiwomble Telea and Reece, though not the biggest wingers are very very elusive and strong in contact. Reece is the best winger in Super Rugby and deserves his chance after being injured last year.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Hotham has to be close with Roigard injured, he’s been the best halfback in SR the past month

                I would think Hotham is also the closest to Roigard as a running HB.

                He is proving to be quite smart in his decisions around when to run. I also like the way he is still managing to clear the ball while under pressure and at times actually having players hanging off him after they have come through the ruck.

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                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Dolamite said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Hotham has to be close with Roigard injured, he’s been the best halfback in SR the past month

                I would think Hotham is also the closest to Roigard as a running HB.

                He is proving to be quite smart in his decisions around when to run. I also like the way he is still managing to clear the ball while under pressure and at times actually having players hanging off him after they have come through the ruck.

                Also he been earmarked by NZR for a couple of years, can see him getting a peek, at leat for A team

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                  The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                    His kickoff work is really useful too

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                      His kickoff work is really useful too

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                      @Duluth this is why this AB squad announcement is so intriguing. Roberston could go a few ways for most of the positions and it would be hard to argue with. There is going to be a lot of talented players that will be disappointed at 5pm on July 24.

                      The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @Duluth this is why this AB squad announcement is so intriguing. Roberston could go a few ways for most of the positions and it would be hard to argue with. There is going to be a lot of talented players that will be disappointed at 5pm on July 24.

                        The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

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                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        The silver lining is that we will have a very strong All Blacks XV squad.

                        Irrelevant for the England series though as they tour later in the year.

                        The Māori ABs play a Japan XV during the June/July window so many who miss out on the AB squad will be involved in that.

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                          It really just shows what a horrible year Stevenson's had given everyones form XV has Love starting at 15 now.

                          Somehow hes managed to make his defence even worse this year, seems to have lost his try scoring touch and his much vanuted kicking game has dissapointed.

                          Was his year to make a massive claim on the jersey especaily with Jordan getting injured so early and boy - has he missed.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

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                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                            He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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                            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                              With the modern game there is the luxury of subbing players at 60 minutes to see how they go.
                              Sotutu for Savea, Proctor for R Ioane, Vaa'i for Patty and bring on Numia.
                              Overall things are looking good.

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                              @BerniesCorner

                              I agree, very good players coming through in almost every position, not all of them will make it through to be world-class Test player but a few will. I think the 2027 squad will be very strong indeed.

                              The problem position for me is 10. For whatever reason, the NZ system is struggling badly at the minute to produce First Fives of any real quality.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                                He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                The thing Clarke possesses that the others don't is the power to bust through an organised defense, which can make a huge difference at test level

                                He's worked hard at not immediately looking around for support once he's broken the defence as well.

                                He is very good under the high ball, too.

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                                • Landers92L Landers92

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Probably scandalous to suggest - but I am wondering if they might pick Clarke and Reece ahead of Telea as the starting wings. I think both are playing a little better and both have test experience.

                                  Clarke is an out and out left winger so it’s between Tele’a, Narawa and Reece for the 14 jersey. The latter 3 can play on the left if needed but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

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                                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                  Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                    Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                                    @KiwiMurph

                                    It barely counts, but he also played 14 against Namibia at the RWC

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Kiwiwomble same Telea and Reece over Clarke for me aswell. A back three of Telea, Reece and Love would be electric.

                                      If I had to pick an AB team to play England it would look like the following:

                                      1. De Groot
                                      2. Taylor
                                      3. Lomax
                                      4. Barrett
                                      5. Tuipolotu
                                      6. Finau
                                      7. Papali'i
                                      8. Savea (C) 🙂
                                      9. Perenara (he starts until Roigard gets back)
                                      10. McKenzie
                                      11. Telea
                                      12. Barrett
                                      13. Ioane
                                      14. Reece
                                      15. Love
                                      16. Aumua
                                      17. Williams
                                      18. Newell
                                      19. Vaai ?? I don't rate Vaai but I expect him to be there.
                                      20. Sotutu
                                      21. Ratima
                                      22. Barrett
                                      23. Proctor

                                      Rest of the squad for me would be:
                                      24. Taukei'aho
                                      25. Numia
                                      26. Tu'ungafasi
                                      27. Delany/McWhannell/Walker-Leawere/Darry - a bolter here, who knows who it will be.
                                      28. Lakai
                                      29. Blackadder - I think Razor will select his man.
                                      30. Funaki
                                      31. Leinert-Brown
                                      32. Clarke

                                      Squad reserves:
                                      33. another lock
                                      34. Jacobsen
                                      35. Plummer
                                      36. Stevenson

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                                      @Canes4life why Ratima over Funaki?

                                      But yeah interesting that Hotham has all of a sudden become a favourite for some after running the ball well in a couple of games (and looking awful earlier), yet others have been performing all season and now aren't as good...

                                      What team does Hotham play for again?

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                        Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                        Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                                        I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                          Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                                          I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

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                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          but playing on the right is something that Clarke hasn’t done.

                                          Clarke has played on the right for the Blues before.

                                          I looked it up, back in 2019 he played most of the games at 14. Ioane was still playing 11 back then

                                          I stand corrected. I don’t recall that at all so thanks for that info.

                                          Going to be interesting come selection time for sure

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