All Blacks 2024
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
why would we think having two strong options for a position means we have to move people around, get them working together and pushing each other, give razor options, we might even have the depth to chose horses for courses...game plans specific to our Opposition
dur, because they are both awesome and therefore we just have to pick both of them
we're having the same convo as the other day!
Proctor is a rookie. Very promising but a rookie nonetheless.
There are 15 test matches this year.
It doesn’t make sense that proctor plays all of those and he will get his chances if picked.
If required Reiko could move to the wing if they bring procter on.
The ABs have been at their best when we have got depth. Having 2 players that can play centre is a great thing for us. Procter has a lot to prove to become an international class centre
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.
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2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.
Or they are bringing in specialisation to the selection process enabling closer scrutiny to pick their best players that fit into the wider gameplan.
It’s a different approach which may work better.
Having said that, I’m not sure how hard it is to pick a squad of 32 out of 170 odd players.
Most posters on here would be able to get 90% of the squad correct anyway.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.
But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor. -
Or they are bringing in specialisation to the selection process enabling closer scrutiny to pick their best players that fit into the wider gameplan.
It’s a different approach which may work better.
Having said that, I’m not sure how hard it is to pick a squad of 32 out of 170 odd players.
Most posters on here would be able to get 90% of the squad correct anyway.
@DaGrubster
Was slightly taking the piss, but it seems way more convoluted than it need be.Plenty of scapegoats if things go tits up though.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.
But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.
But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.The powers that be know best as always Dan
He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous
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@DaGrubster
Was slightly taking the piss, but it seems way more convoluted than it need be.Plenty of scapegoats if things go tits up though.
Ah fair enough,
I like the idea of it. As long as there is crystal clear clarity on the requirements of specific positions based on the gameplan.
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.
The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.
Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?
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Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??
@ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??
Brayden Iose
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.
But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.The powers that be know best as always Dan
He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.
But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.The powers that be know best as always Dan
He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous
Well we got no AB captain now and I not sure it hurts. Mind you , I would be quite happy if they just named captain year by year, so noone feels they got mortgage on it or jersy. But that me probably just showing age?
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.
And he has recently handed his ticket in. Haven't seen the role advertised either. Considering how demanding it is, in terms of time away from home,pay is similar to what decent public service roles are. I think last time it came up, it was around 130 - 140kish. So may be add another 5% to that amount. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider-newshub-nation-presenter-joins-nbr-all-blacks-comms-boss-quits/UR5Q6VMITZERRPU4R5VEIO3JZM/
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.
Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.
Ah thanks. I guess my wider point was I don't see the lady there from Fozzie's reign.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.
The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.
Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris-B
I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice
They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.
Ryan tight 5
Razor LF's
Hansen HBs and First fives
Holland MF
McDonald outside backsOverseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.
Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.
The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.
Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?
Um, it isn't as if we don't have enough 6s and too many international quality locks..
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
the whole Breakdown panel
Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
the whole Breakdown panel
Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.
excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.
I don't know why anyone would be remotely surprised about this unless they're still living in the 1990's?
All tier-1 setups look like this now, your minds would blow seeing the size of an NFL setup, also the team at 2023 World Cup was even bigger as there were 7 on-field coaches altogether with Foster, Schmidt, Strawbridge, McLeod, Hill, Ryan, Feek - along with the same amount of managerial staff that's listed here.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
2024 All Blacks Management
Scott Robertson (Head Coach)
Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)
Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)
Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)
Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)
Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)
Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)
Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)
Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)
Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)
Nic Gill (Head of Performance)
Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)
Martin Swan (Doctor)
Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)
Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)
Kat Darry (Dietician)
Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)
Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)
James Iversen (Logistics Manager)
Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)
Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)
Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)
Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.
I don't know why anyone would be remotely surprised about this unless they're still living in the 1990's?
All tier-1 setups look like this now, your minds would blow seeing the size of an NFL setup, also the team at 2023 World Cup was even bigger as there were 7 on-field coaches altogether with Foster, Schmidt, Strawbridge, McLeod, Hill, Ryan, Feek - along with the same amount of managerial staff that's listed here.
I'm sure. Seeing the whole caboodle in one list can still make you scratch your head though.
