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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B

    I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice

    They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.

    Ryan tight 5
    Razor LF's
    Hansen HBs and First fives
    Holland MF
    McDonald outside backs

    Overseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.

    Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris-B

    I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice

    They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.

    Ryan tight 5
    Razor LF's
    Hansen HBs and First fives
    Holland MF
    McDonald outside backs

    Overseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.

    Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.

    The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.

    Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?

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    • R ruggabee

      Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??

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      @ruggabee said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Just pick the entire Canes backrow including bench i won't complain Flanders Lakai Iose,Savea Kirifi off the pine yeah boyyy- size power dynamism agility speed...what more could you possibly ask for??

      Brayden Iose

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.

        But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
        I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.

        The powers that be know best as always Dan

        He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        Be good to have the captain fuck off shortly after getting used to his role.

        But he wouldn't be going when he is doing his role. Basiacally he redundant as captain during super anyway because team isn't playing. I can't really recall any AB captain having anytjing to do with his role at that time.
        I have no opinion on whether he should be captain, but taking time off during super ,I wouldn't think would or should be a big factor.

        The powers that be know best as always Dan

        He would be fucking off right in the middle of his role, don't be ridiculous

        Well we got no AB captain now and I not sure it hurts. Mind you , I would be quite happy if they just named captain year by year, so noone feels they got mortgage on it or jersy. But that me probably just showing age?

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          2024 All Blacks Management

          Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

          Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

          Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

          Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

          Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

          Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

          Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

          Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

          Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

          Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

          Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

          Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

          Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

          Martin Swan (Doctor)

          Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

          Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

          Kat Darry (Dietician)

          Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

          Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

          James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

          Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

          Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

          Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

          Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

          The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

            The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

            The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

            Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

              The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

              Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

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              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

              The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

              Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

              And he has recently handed his ticket in. Haven't seen the role advertised either. Considering how demanding it is, in terms of time away from home,pay is similar to what decent public service roles are. I think last time it came up, it was around 130 - 140kish. So may be add another 5% to that amount. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/media-insider-newshub-nation-presenter-joins-nbr-all-blacks-comms-boss-quits/UR5Q6VMITZERRPU4R5VEIO3JZM/

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

                Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

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                KiwiMurph
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                #2769

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                The media comms should improve from that shambles of a lady that was around during Fozzie's tenure.

                Matt Manukia was there when Fozzie was. He was definitely there during the WC.

                Ah thanks. I guess my wider point was I don't see the lady there from Fozzie's reign.

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                • Windows97W Windows97

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Chris-B

                  I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice

                  They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.

                  Ryan tight 5
                  Razor LF's
                  Hansen HBs and First fives
                  Holland MF
                  McDonald outside backs

                  Overseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.

                  Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.

                  The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.

                  Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?

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                  #2770

                  @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Chris-B

                  I'm sure I saw that Hansen will be in that mix. He feels like Razor's Smith to me so I imagine he gets a voice

                  They broke it up as follows as far as responsibility for selections are made, this according to an interview with Razor before SR.

                  Ryan tight 5
                  Razor LF's
                  Hansen HBs and First fives
                  Holland MF
                  McDonald outside backs

                  Overseen by Razor with Wayne Smiths in put.

                  Genius. Just set up 2-3 sub-committees to co-ordinate selection and we'll be sweet.

                  The funny bit is that it's been stated that Razor will be the one to make the decision if there are disagreements.

                  Exactly how are there going to be disagreements here? Is Ryan going to disagree with himself as to who the tight 5 are? An enormus shouting match between Holland and McDonald as to whether JB is a 2nd 5 or a fullback? A stoush between Ryan and Razor if SB is a lock or a 6?

                  Um, it isn't as if we don't have enough 6s and too many international quality locks..

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                    I really needed to type that in saracasm font didn't I?

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      the whole Breakdown panel

                      Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      the whole Breakdown panel

                      Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

                      excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        2024 All Blacks Management

                        Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                        Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                        Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                        Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                        Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                        Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                        Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                        Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                        Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                        Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                        Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                        Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                        Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                        Martin Swan (Doctor)

                        Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                        Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                        Kat Darry (Dietician)

                        Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                        Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                        James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                        Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                        Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                        Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

                        Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.

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                        ruggabee
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                        #2773

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        2024 All Blacks Management

                        Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                        Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                        Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                        Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                        Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                        Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                        Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                        Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                        Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                        Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                        Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                        Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                        Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                        Martin Swan (Doctor)

                        Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                        Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                        Kat Darry (Dietician)

                        Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                        Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                        James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                        Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                        Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                        Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

                        Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.

                        I don't know why anyone would be remotely surprised about this unless they're still living in the 1990's?

                        All tier-1 setups look like this now, your minds would blow seeing the size of an NFL setup, also the team at 2023 World Cup was even bigger as there were 7 on-field coaches altogether with Foster, Schmidt, Strawbridge, McLeod, Hill, Ryan, Feek - along with the same amount of managerial staff that's listed here.

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                        • R ruggabee

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          2024 All Blacks Management

                          Scott Robertson (Head Coach)

                          Jason Ryan (Assistant Coach - Forwards)

                          Leon MacDonald (Assistant Coach - Attack)

                          Scott Hansen (Assistant Coach - Defence)

                          Jason Holland (Assistant Coach - Backs)

                          Tamati Ellison (Contact Skills Coach)

                          Wayne Smith (Performance Coach)

                          Jamie Hamilton (Head Performance Analyst)

                          Al Beeton (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                          Jon Gardner (Assistant Performance Analyst)

                          Ceri Evans (Head of Leadership + Mental Performance)

                          Nic Gill (Head of Performance)

                          Adam Hay (Performance Scientist)

                          Martin Swan (Doctor)

                          Karl McDonald (Lead Physiotherapist)

                          Teresa Te Tamaki (Assistant Physiotherapist)

                          Kat Darry (Dietician)

                          Paul McLaughlan (Team Manager)

                          Megan Compain (Commercial Manager)

                          James Iversen (Logistics Manager)

                          Matt Manukia (Communications Manager)

                          Paula Powlesland (Business Manager)

                          Bianca Thiel (Operations Manager)

                          Fuck me. More coaches and managers than a small country's rail network.

                          I don't know why anyone would be remotely surprised about this unless they're still living in the 1990's?

                          All tier-1 setups look like this now, your minds would blow seeing the size of an NFL setup, also the team at 2023 World Cup was even bigger as there were 7 on-field coaches altogether with Foster, Schmidt, Strawbridge, McLeod, Hill, Ryan, Feek - along with the same amount of managerial staff that's listed here.

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                          Victor Meldrew
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                          @ruggabee

                          I'm sure. Seeing the whole caboodle in one list can still make you scratch your head though.

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                          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                            @ruggabee

                            I'm sure. Seeing the whole caboodle in one list can still make you scratch your head though.

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                            pakman
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                            @Victor-Meldrew A few pints of Stella will ease the pain.

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                            • dogmeatD dogmeat

                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              the whole Breakdown panel

                              Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

                              excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

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                              Old Samurai Jack
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                              @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              the whole Breakdown panel

                              Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

                              excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

                              Your self-reflection skills exceeds that of others.

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                              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                the whole Breakdown panel

                                Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

                                excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

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                                Darren
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                                @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                the whole Breakdown panel

                                Those are the dumbest people in NZ, and Jeff Wilson is the stupidest person in the entire world.

                                excuse me. No way is Goldie dumber than me

                                He might not be, but that other commentator that wears blazers that would be tight on Terry Wright for sure is.
                                Ben Castle I think his name is.

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                                • WingerW Winger

                                  It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

                                  But he has a much better candidate who seems to tick all the boxes.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/he-s-arguably-the-best-player-in-the-world-perenara-casts-vote-for-next-all-blacks-captain/ar-BB1nIhUG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=CNNDDB&cvid=72a3094cec8b4a0e967cfcbc1374f843&ei=24

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                                  @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

                                  Please pick Scooter. Please pick Scooter. Just please.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

                                    Please pick Scooter. Please pick Scooter. Just please.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    It would be a disaster if he appointed Scott Barrett as captain. Apart from the fact it would make Robertson look like he's unable to look outside his Crusader mates - its already bad enough with Richie and Sam. Scott would almost be the final straw for me.

                                    Please pick Scooter. Please pick Scooter. Just please.

                                    I'm a big Ardie fan, but his captaincy hasn't been great. I'd pick Scott, and I wouldn't care that he goes on a sabbatical next year. That's my prediction

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                                      I'll put it in here, but looking well forward were going to get another b team touring NZ next year 🤬

                                      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/fabien-galthie-reveals-plans-for-20-premium-france-players-who-will-miss-all-blacks-tour

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                                        I'll put it in here, but looking well forward were going to get another b team touring NZ next year 🤬

                                        https://www.planetrugby.com/news/fabien-galthie-reveals-plans-for-20-premium-france-players-who-will-miss-all-blacks-tour

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I'll put it in here, but looking well forward were going to get another b team touring NZ next year 🤬

                                        https://www.planetrugby.com/news/fabien-galthie-reveals-plans-for-20-premium-france-players-who-will-miss-all-blacks-tour

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                                        Frogs still thinking small. Worried they can only beat us once, so keeping la poudre dry until the last minute

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                                          I'll put it in here, but looking well forward were going to get another b team touring NZ next year 🤬

                                          https://www.planetrugby.com/news/fabien-galthie-reveals-plans-for-20-premium-france-players-who-will-miss-all-blacks-tour

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I'll put it in here, but looking well forward were going to get another b team touring NZ next year 🤬

                                          https://www.planetrugby.com/news/fabien-galthie-reveals-plans-for-20-premium-france-players-who-will-miss-all-blacks-tour

                                          If it's a money thing, surely Ta$man will have some spare dosh from being free of most of their ABs?

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