All Blacks 2024

[booboo]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@sparky why

Running game, quick pass, gets the ball out fast, and as Rakete-Stones can attest, can hit like a truck.

Yeah ... seriously embarrassment getting smashed like that by a ruck rat (TM @Smuts )

[SouthernMann]

Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

[Mr Fish]

For the Hurricanes, think IWL and Lakai would've done their chances of selection no harm.

For the Chiefs, Jacobson, Sititi, Narawa, Ratima boosted their chances.

[Bovidae]

@Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available?

He is out for SR and hasn't played any club rugby yet.

[ruggabee]

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[gt12]

I’m glad to see that people have mentioned Jacobson. He’s playing in his best position to get an AB cap again - he’s incredibly similar to Paps and can play all three positions well.

He’s there for the bench when Blackadder gets injured.

[Victor Meldrew]

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

Can be a risk having a rookie 9 start a Test, but on balance I hope you're right. Want to see TJP's experience on the bench in case it does go tits up though.

[booboo]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

There's force there!!!

Yeah, seriously? In a tackle? Force?

[ACT Crusader]

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

Too many Chiefs. Only one token makes the squad…

[Old Samurai Jack]

Reckon Ratima played himself into the ABs tonight.

[Winger]

@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

@Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

Perenara will be picked.

Maybe not after his display today.

[Mr Fish]

My updated barometer...

Hookers
Codie Taylor - 100%
Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
Asafo Aumua - 100%
Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
George Bell - 50% (new)

Props
Ethan de Groot - 100%
Tyrel Lomax - 100%
Fletcher Newell - 100%
Tamaiti Williams - 80%
Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
Xaver Numia - 50%
George Bower - 50%
George Dyer - 10%

Locks
Scott Barrett - 100%
Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
Sam Darry - 50%
Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

Loose forwards
Ardie Savea - 100%
Dalton Papali'i - 100%
Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
Peter Lakai - 50%
Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

Halfbacks
Finlay Christie - 80%
TJ Perenara - 80%
Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

First fives
Damian McKenzie - 100%
Beauden Barrett - 100%
Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
Cam Millar - 10%

Midfield
Jordie Barrett - 100%
Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
Rieko Ioane - 100%
Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
David Havili - 25% (up)
Quinn Tupaea - 10%
Rameka Poihipi - 5%

Outside backs
Mark Tele'a - 100%
Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
Ruben Love - 80% (down)
Caleb Clarke - 80%
Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

[Mr Fish]

And for what it's worth, my own personal selection would be:

Hookers - Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei'aho
Props - Ethan de Groot, Tamati Williams, Xavier Numia*, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell
Locks - Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Darry*, Isaia Walker-Leawere*
Loose forwards - Samipeni Finau, Ethan Blackadder, Dalton Papali'i, Peter Lakai*, Ardie Savea
Halfback - Cortez Ratima*, TJ Perenara, Finlay Christie
First Five - Damian McKenzie, Harry Plummer*, Beauden Barrett
Midfield - Jordie Barrett, Billy Proctor*, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane
Outside backs - Caleb Clarke, Mark Tele'a, Sevu Reece, Ruben Love*

Injury cover
Taukei'aho - Tyrone Thompson
Numia - Luke Jacobson (more loosies putting their hands up than props at this stage)
Proctor - David Havili

With the first team to play England: Barrett, Reece, Lienert-Brown, Barrett, Tele'a, McKenzie, Ratima, Savea, Papali'i, Blackadder, Vaa'i, Barrett, Lomax, Taylor, De Groot. Reserves: Taukei'aho(/Aumua), Numia (/Tu'ungafasi), Newell, Darry, Finau, Christie, Ioane, Love.

[Bovidae]

@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

A free trip to Europe to visit the family.

[voodoo]

I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

Team must be named soon.

[MN5]

@voodoo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
> I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

Team must be named soon.

I thought I was bad, I’ve watched two canes games this year and about 3/4 of a blues game.

From that I’ve deduced there’s going to be far too many Chiefs, Crusaders and Highlanders in the ABs for my liking.

[LABCAT]

When is the squad actually announced?

For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

[Chris]

@LABCAT said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

When is the squad actually announced?

For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

Monday 24th June

[ploughboy]

I wonder if Lord has recovered from injury if he will be concidered

[Chris B.]

@Mr-Fish I reckon all of that (your personal selection) will be pretty much on the money - it won't be right, but I'll be surprised if it is far away. Not much I would change and most would be almost coin flips.

I think George Bower will be picked if Numia isn't fit.

They might select an extra loose forward and one less lock - but, regardless, I'm expecting to see a few extras named to join the squad as cover. (I'm a bit surprised they're limiting themselves to a squad of 32, when 34 gives more complete coverage).

I'm also expecting quite a few of the wounded to spend a few days in camp to hear Razor's scene-setting presentations - seems like they're not calling players from the eliminated teams into an early camp?