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  • TimT Tim

    Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available? I'm guessing no. How about Scott Barrett?

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available?

    He is out for SR and hasn't played any club rugby yet.

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        I’m glad to see that people have mentioned Jacobson. He’s playing in his best position to get an AB cap again - he’s incredibly similar to Paps and can play all three positions well.

        He’s there for the bench when Blackadder gets injured.

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        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

          In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

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          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

          Can be a risk having a rookie 9 start a Test, but on balance I hope you're right. Want to see TJP's experience on the bench in case it does go tits up though.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            There's force there!!!

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            There's force there!!!

            Yeah, seriously? In a tackle? Force?

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            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

              In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

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              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

              Too many Chiefs. Only one token makes the squad…

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                Reckon Ratima played himself into the ABs tonight.

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                • F Frank

                  @Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

                  Perenara will be picked.

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                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

                  Perenara will be picked.

                  Maybe not after his display today.

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                    My updated barometer...

                    Hookers
                    Codie Taylor - 100%
                    Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
                    Asafo Aumua - 100%
                    Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
                    George Bell - 50% (new)

                    Props
                    Ethan de Groot - 100%
                    Tyrel Lomax - 100%
                    Fletcher Newell - 100%
                    Tamaiti Williams - 80%
                    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
                    Xaver Numia - 50%
                    George Bower - 50%
                    George Dyer - 10%

                    Locks
                    Scott Barrett - 100%
                    Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
                    Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
                    Sam Darry - 50%
                    Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
                    Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
                    Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

                    Loose forwards
                    Ardie Savea - 100%
                    Dalton Papali'i - 100%
                    Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
                    Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
                    Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
                    Peter Lakai - 50%
                    Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
                    Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
                    Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
                    Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

                    Halfbacks
                    Finlay Christie - 80%
                    TJ Perenara - 80%
                    Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
                    Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
                    Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
                    Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

                    First fives
                    Damian McKenzie - 100%
                    Beauden Barrett - 100%
                    Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
                    Cam Millar - 10%

                    Midfield
                    Jordie Barrett - 100%
                    Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
                    Rieko Ioane - 100%
                    Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
                    David Havili - 25% (up)
                    Quinn Tupaea - 10%
                    Rameka Poihipi - 5%

                    Outside backs
                    Mark Tele'a - 100%
                    Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
                    Ruben Love - 80% (down)
                    Caleb Clarke - 80%
                    Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
                    Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

                    Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

                    Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

                    Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

                    Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

                    Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

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                      And for what it's worth, my own personal selection would be:

                      Hookers - Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei'aho
                      Props - Ethan de Groot, Tamati Williams, Xavier Numia*, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell
                      Locks - Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Darry*, Isaia Walker-Leawere*
                      Loose forwards - Samipeni Finau, Ethan Blackadder, Dalton Papali'i, Peter Lakai*, Ardie Savea
                      Halfback - Cortez Ratima*, TJ Perenara, Finlay Christie
                      First Five - Damian McKenzie, Harry Plummer*, Beauden Barrett
                      Midfield - Jordie Barrett, Billy Proctor*, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane
                      Outside backs - Caleb Clarke, Mark Tele'a, Sevu Reece, Ruben Love*

                      Injury cover
                      Taukei'aho - Tyrone Thompson
                      Numia - Luke Jacobson (more loosies putting their hands up than props at this stage)
                      Proctor - David Havili

                      With the first team to play England: Barrett, Reece, Lienert-Brown, Barrett, Tele'a, McKenzie, Ratima, Savea, Papali'i, Blackadder, Vaa'i, Barrett, Lomax, Taylor, De Groot. Reserves: Taukei'aho(/Aumua), Numia (/Tu'ungafasi), Newell, Darry, Finau, Christie, Ioane, Love.

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                      • S SouthernMann

                        Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

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                        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

                        A free trip to Europe to visit the family.

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                          I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

                          But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

                          Team must be named soon.

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                          • voodooV voodoo

                            I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

                            But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

                            Team must be named soon.

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                            @voodoo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
                            > I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

                            But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

                            Team must be named soon.

                            I thought I was bad, I’ve watched two canes games this year and about 3/4 of a blues game.

                            From that I’ve deduced there’s going to be far too many Chiefs, Crusaders and Highlanders in the ABs for my liking.

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                              When is the squad actually announced?

                              For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

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                                When is the squad actually announced?

                                For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

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                                @LABCAT said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                When is the squad actually announced?

                                For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

                                Monday 24th June

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                                  I wonder if Lord has recovered from injury if he will be concidered

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                                    And for what it's worth, my own personal selection would be:

                                    Hookers - Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei'aho
                                    Props - Ethan de Groot, Tamati Williams, Xavier Numia*, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell
                                    Locks - Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Darry*, Isaia Walker-Leawere*
                                    Loose forwards - Samipeni Finau, Ethan Blackadder, Dalton Papali'i, Peter Lakai*, Ardie Savea
                                    Halfback - Cortez Ratima*, TJ Perenara, Finlay Christie
                                    First Five - Damian McKenzie, Harry Plummer*, Beauden Barrett
                                    Midfield - Jordie Barrett, Billy Proctor*, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane
                                    Outside backs - Caleb Clarke, Mark Tele'a, Sevu Reece, Ruben Love*

                                    Injury cover
                                    Taukei'aho - Tyrone Thompson
                                    Numia - Luke Jacobson (more loosies putting their hands up than props at this stage)
                                    Proctor - David Havili

                                    With the first team to play England: Barrett, Reece, Lienert-Brown, Barrett, Tele'a, McKenzie, Ratima, Savea, Papali'i, Blackadder, Vaa'i, Barrett, Lomax, Taylor, De Groot. Reserves: Taukei'aho(/Aumua), Numia (/Tu'ungafasi), Newell, Darry, Finau, Christie, Ioane, Love.

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                                    @Mr-Fish I reckon all of that (your personal selection) will be pretty much on the money - it won't be right, but I'll be surprised if it is far away. Not much I would change and most would be almost coin flips.

                                    I think George Bower will be picked if Numia isn't fit.

                                    They might select an extra loose forward and one less lock - but, regardless, I'm expecting to see a few extras named to join the squad as cover. (I'm a bit surprised they're limiting themselves to a squad of 32, when 34 gives more complete coverage).

                                    I'm also expecting quite a few of the wounded to spend a few days in camp to hear Razor's scene-setting presentations - seems like they're not calling players from the eliminated teams into an early camp?

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                                      My updated barometer...

                                      Hookers
                                      Codie Taylor - 100%
                                      Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
                                      Asafo Aumua - 100%
                                      Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
                                      George Bell - 50% (new)

                                      Props
                                      Ethan de Groot - 100%
                                      Tyrel Lomax - 100%
                                      Fletcher Newell - 100%
                                      Tamaiti Williams - 80%
                                      Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
                                      Xaver Numia - 50%
                                      George Bower - 50%
                                      George Dyer - 10%

                                      Locks
                                      Scott Barrett - 100%
                                      Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
                                      Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
                                      Sam Darry - 50%
                                      Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
                                      Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
                                      Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

                                      Loose forwards
                                      Ardie Savea - 100%
                                      Dalton Papali'i - 100%
                                      Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
                                      Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
                                      Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
                                      Peter Lakai - 50%
                                      Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
                                      Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
                                      Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
                                      Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

                                      Halfbacks
                                      Finlay Christie - 80%
                                      TJ Perenara - 80%
                                      Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
                                      Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
                                      Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
                                      Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

                                      First fives
                                      Damian McKenzie - 100%
                                      Beauden Barrett - 100%
                                      Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
                                      Cam Millar - 10%

                                      Midfield
                                      Jordie Barrett - 100%
                                      Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
                                      Rieko Ioane - 100%
                                      Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
                                      David Havili - 25% (up)
                                      Quinn Tupaea - 10%
                                      Rameka Poihipi - 5%

                                      Outside backs
                                      Mark Tele'a - 100%
                                      Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
                                      Ruben Love - 80% (down)
                                      Caleb Clarke - 80%
                                      Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
                                      Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

                                      Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

                                      Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

                                      Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

                                      Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

                                      Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

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                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game

                                      The semi?

                                      I thought he was one of the best Canes in the semi. Although he was a bit hurt towards the end

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                                        I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
                                        A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

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                                          I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
                                          A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
                                          A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

                                          Jeez that's not been done before haha

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