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    Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

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      For the Hurricanes, think IWL and Lakai would've done their chances of selection no harm.

      For the Chiefs, Jacobson, Sititi, Narawa, Ratima boosted their chances.

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      • TimT Tim

        Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available? I'm guessing no. How about Scott Barrett?

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        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        Any word on whether Josh Lord is going to be available?

        He is out for SR and hasn't played any club rugby yet.

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            I’m glad to see that people have mentioned Jacobson. He’s playing in his best position to get an AB cap again - he’s incredibly similar to Paps and can play all three positions well.

            He’s there for the bench when Blackadder gets injured.

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            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

              In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

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              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

              Can be a risk having a rookie 9 start a Test, but on balance I hope you're right. Want to see TJP's experience on the bench in case it does go tits up though.

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                There's force there!!!

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                There's force there!!!

                Yeah, seriously? In a tackle? Force?

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                • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                  In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

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                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  In fact with the current injury to Roigard it would be silly not to pick a Ratima- DMac combo

                  Too many Chiefs. Only one token makes the squad…

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                    Reckon Ratima played himself into the ABs tonight.

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                      @Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

                      Perenara will be picked.

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                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Stag said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Ratima, Fakatava & Hotham for the halfback positions with Christy next off the rank

                      Perenara will be picked.

                      Maybe not after his display today.

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                        My updated barometer...

                        Hookers
                        Codie Taylor - 100%
                        Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
                        Asafo Aumua - 100%
                        Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
                        George Bell - 50% (new)

                        Props
                        Ethan de Groot - 100%
                        Tyrel Lomax - 100%
                        Fletcher Newell - 100%
                        Tamaiti Williams - 80%
                        Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
                        Xaver Numia - 50%
                        George Bower - 50%
                        George Dyer - 10%

                        Locks
                        Scott Barrett - 100%
                        Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
                        Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
                        Sam Darry - 50%
                        Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
                        Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
                        Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

                        Loose forwards
                        Ardie Savea - 100%
                        Dalton Papali'i - 100%
                        Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
                        Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
                        Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
                        Peter Lakai - 50%
                        Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
                        Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
                        Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
                        Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

                        Halfbacks
                        Finlay Christie - 80%
                        TJ Perenara - 80%
                        Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
                        Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
                        Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
                        Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

                        First fives
                        Damian McKenzie - 100%
                        Beauden Barrett - 100%
                        Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
                        Cam Millar - 10%

                        Midfield
                        Jordie Barrett - 100%
                        Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
                        Rieko Ioane - 100%
                        Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
                        David Havili - 25% (up)
                        Quinn Tupaea - 10%
                        Rameka Poihipi - 5%

                        Outside backs
                        Mark Tele'a - 100%
                        Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
                        Ruben Love - 80% (down)
                        Caleb Clarke - 80%
                        Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
                        Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

                        Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

                        Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

                        Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

                        Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

                        Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

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                          And for what it's worth, my own personal selection would be:

                          Hookers - Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei'aho
                          Props - Ethan de Groot, Tamati Williams, Xavier Numia*, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell
                          Locks - Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Darry*, Isaia Walker-Leawere*
                          Loose forwards - Samipeni Finau, Ethan Blackadder, Dalton Papali'i, Peter Lakai*, Ardie Savea
                          Halfback - Cortez Ratima*, TJ Perenara, Finlay Christie
                          First Five - Damian McKenzie, Harry Plummer*, Beauden Barrett
                          Midfield - Jordie Barrett, Billy Proctor*, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane
                          Outside backs - Caleb Clarke, Mark Tele'a, Sevu Reece, Ruben Love*

                          Injury cover
                          Taukei'aho - Tyrone Thompson
                          Numia - Luke Jacobson (more loosies putting their hands up than props at this stage)
                          Proctor - David Havili

                          With the first team to play England: Barrett, Reece, Lienert-Brown, Barrett, Tele'a, McKenzie, Ratima, Savea, Papali'i, Blackadder, Vaa'i, Barrett, Lomax, Taylor, De Groot. Reserves: Taukei'aho(/Aumua), Numia (/Tu'ungafasi), Newell, Darry, Finau, Christie, Ioane, Love.

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                          • S SouthernMann

                            Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

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                            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Interestingly Fabian Holland heading off to London to play for the Barbarians against Fiji.

                            A free trip to Europe to visit the family.

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                              I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

                              But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

                              Team must be named soon.

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                                I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

                                But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

                                Team must be named soon.

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                                @voodoo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
                                > I have nothing of value to add to this thread as I haven’t watched a single game of super rugby all year (like that would change anything).

                                But I just thought I’d mention that I booked seats this morning to the Bled here in Sydney for the whole fam - 3:45pm kick off so looking forward to a late lunch and hopefully some quality footy in the sunshine.

                                Team must be named soon.

                                I thought I was bad, I’ve watched two canes games this year and about 3/4 of a blues game.

                                From that I’ve deduced there’s going to be far too many Chiefs, Crusaders and Highlanders in the ABs for my liking.

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                                  When is the squad actually announced?

                                  For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

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                                    When is the squad actually announced?

                                    For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

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                                    @LABCAT said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    When is the squad actually announced?

                                    For some reason I thought it would have been announced by now.

                                    Monday 24th June

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                                      I wonder if Lord has recovered from injury if he will be concidered

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                                        And for what it's worth, my own personal selection would be:

                                        Hookers - Codie Taylor, Asafo Aumua, Samisoni Taukei'aho
                                        Props - Ethan de Groot, Tamati Williams, Xavier Numia*, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Tyrel Lomax, Fletcher Newell
                                        Locks - Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa'i, Sam Darry*, Isaia Walker-Leawere*
                                        Loose forwards - Samipeni Finau, Ethan Blackadder, Dalton Papali'i, Peter Lakai*, Ardie Savea
                                        Halfback - Cortez Ratima*, TJ Perenara, Finlay Christie
                                        First Five - Damian McKenzie, Harry Plummer*, Beauden Barrett
                                        Midfield - Jordie Barrett, Billy Proctor*, Anton Lienert-Brown, Rieko Ioane
                                        Outside backs - Caleb Clarke, Mark Tele'a, Sevu Reece, Ruben Love*

                                        Injury cover
                                        Taukei'aho - Tyrone Thompson
                                        Numia - Luke Jacobson (more loosies putting their hands up than props at this stage)
                                        Proctor - David Havili

                                        With the first team to play England: Barrett, Reece, Lienert-Brown, Barrett, Tele'a, McKenzie, Ratima, Savea, Papali'i, Blackadder, Vaa'i, Barrett, Lomax, Taylor, De Groot. Reserves: Taukei'aho(/Aumua), Numia (/Tu'ungafasi), Newell, Darry, Finau, Christie, Ioane, Love.

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                                        @Mr-Fish I reckon all of that (your personal selection) will be pretty much on the money - it won't be right, but I'll be surprised if it is far away. Not much I would change and most would be almost coin flips.

                                        I think George Bower will be picked if Numia isn't fit.

                                        They might select an extra loose forward and one less lock - but, regardless, I'm expecting to see a few extras named to join the squad as cover. (I'm a bit surprised they're limiting themselves to a squad of 32, when 34 gives more complete coverage).

                                        I'm also expecting quite a few of the wounded to spend a few days in camp to hear Razor's scene-setting presentations - seems like they're not calling players from the eliminated teams into an early camp?

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                                          My updated barometer...

                                          Hookers
                                          Codie Taylor - 100%
                                          Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
                                          Asafo Aumua - 100%
                                          Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
                                          George Bell - 50% (new)

                                          Props
                                          Ethan de Groot - 100%
                                          Tyrel Lomax - 100%
                                          Fletcher Newell - 100%
                                          Tamaiti Williams - 80%
                                          Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
                                          Xaver Numia - 50%
                                          George Bower - 50%
                                          George Dyer - 10%

                                          Locks
                                          Scott Barrett - 100%
                                          Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
                                          Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
                                          Sam Darry - 50%
                                          Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
                                          Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
                                          Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

                                          Loose forwards
                                          Ardie Savea - 100%
                                          Dalton Papali'i - 100%
                                          Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
                                          Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
                                          Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
                                          Peter Lakai - 50%
                                          Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
                                          Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
                                          Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
                                          Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

                                          Halfbacks
                                          Finlay Christie - 80%
                                          TJ Perenara - 80%
                                          Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
                                          Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
                                          Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
                                          Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

                                          First fives
                                          Damian McKenzie - 100%
                                          Beauden Barrett - 100%
                                          Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
                                          Cam Millar - 10%

                                          Midfield
                                          Jordie Barrett - 100%
                                          Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
                                          Rieko Ioane - 100%
                                          Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
                                          David Havili - 25% (up)
                                          Quinn Tupaea - 10%
                                          Rameka Poihipi - 5%

                                          Outside backs
                                          Mark Tele'a - 100%
                                          Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
                                          Ruben Love - 80% (down)
                                          Caleb Clarke - 80%
                                          Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
                                          Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

                                          Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

                                          Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

                                          Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

                                          Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

                                          Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

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                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game

                                          The semi?

                                          I thought he was one of the best Canes in the semi. Although he was a bit hurt towards the end

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