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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    hmmmm....

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    @Kiwiwomble He is most likely in AB camp today then

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      hmmmm....

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      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      hmmmm....

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      If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

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        Sorry, i just went to buy microwave popcorn in bulk for when Cane gets picked and Lakai doesn't.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          hmmmm....

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          If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

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          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

          A little surprised if he is fit already, but I kind off expected him in the Championship squad.

          It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

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            Either it will be a meltdown or Devlin will look like a dick (again). Win win.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

              A little surprised if he is fit already, but I kind off expected him in the Championship squad.

              It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

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              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

              A little surprised if he is fit already, but I kind off expected him in the Championship squad.

              It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

              Since when did we hand out the AB jersey to players that haven’t earned the right? If he went back to NPC and put his hand up again then so be it but he hasn’t played in ages. So disappointing if true.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

                A little surprised if he is fit already, but I kind off expected him in the Championship squad.

                It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

                A little surprised if he is fit already, but I kind off expected him in the Championship squad.

                It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                sounds plausible....but by fuck thats a depressing reality to accept

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Depends on the nature of the losses, but 10-4 would be a low bar for many people.

                  To quote Marcellus Wallace: "You see, this profession is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers." 🙂

                  I guess everyone has their own expectations. I'm reading what Grubster is writing and thinking I'm on the same page.

                  One thing I haven't really taken into account is to what extent these other teams are rebuilding.

                  England for instance seem to have pretty much the same forward pack they used at the RWC, but the backs are markedly different. The couple of preview articles I've read suggest they're playing more expansively and the English have some optimism that they might catch us undercooked. Considering Razor's got two weeks to unfold his gameplan (and sprinkle his magic dust around) that wouldn't surprise me.

                  If we go down to the poms the sharks will be taking chunks out of the sufboard before he's paddled past the breakers.

                  Given I didn't watch the Six Nations - what should we expect from England? Is this basically the team they used - or did they have Farrell etc?

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                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Given I didn't watch the Six Nations - what should we expect from England? Is this basically the team they used - or did they have Farrell etc?

                  Farrel was unavailable fro 6n, so the now injured Ford started all the games. Their tens are much worse than ours, DMAC> than them and obvs Beaudy heaps of experience and Plummer at a level similar to the two Smiths

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                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Given I didn't watch the Six Nations - what should we expect from England? Is this basically the team they used - or did they have Farrell etc?

                    Farrel was unavailable fro 6n, so the now injured Ford started all the games. Their tens are much worse than ours, DMAC> than them and obvs Beaudy heaps of experience and Plummer at a level similar to the two Smiths

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                    @Machpants Cheers.

                    What about their other backs - any new guns?

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      hmmmm....

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      hmmmm....

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                      so that and Scott Barrett captain..

                      should be fun

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                        Yeah both the wings have been on fire in club, and their midfield looks very good - Slade is on form. It's a very flash harry bunch for england, not a huge amount of caps the backs vs Japan about 150 - 60 are Slade's and 30 each for Smith and Lawrence

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                          Not sure if it is displaying.
                          Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                          https://x.com/martindevlinnz/status/1802904714209828980

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                            Not sure if it is displaying.
                            Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                            https://x.com/martindevlinnz/status/1802904714209828980

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                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Not sure if it is displaying.
                            Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                            https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/1802904714209828980

                            change x to twitter and it works.

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                              Not sure if it is displaying.
                              Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                              https://x.com/martindevlinnz/status/1802904714209828980

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              Not sure if it is displaying.
                              Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                              That won't surprise me.

                              My guess is that Cane is at Razor's camp and that's extrapolated to him making the team.

                              I'd expect Beauden and Ardie (assuming he's in the country) to be there - and probably some of the injured guys who won't be fit for England - Jordan, Roigard etc.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                If true, that's such a backwards selection. I thought Razor was all about innovation and picking the 'best' players? Cane hasn't played for ages and is 'E Blackadder' level injury prone these days.

                                A little surprised if he is fit already, but I kind off expected him in the Championship squad.

                                It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

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                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                That's not the way Razor works.

                                It'll be because they still rate him

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Not sure if it is displaying.
                                  Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                                  That won't surprise me.

                                  My guess is that Cane is at Razor's camp and that's extrapolated to him making the team.

                                  I'd expect Beauden and Ardie (assuming he's in the country) to be there - and probably some of the injured guys who won't be fit for England - Jordan, Roigard etc.

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Not sure if it is displaying.
                                  Devlin saying his source has Scott Barrett to be named as Captain.

                                  That won't surprise me.

                                  My guess is that Cane is at Razor's camp and that's extrapolated to him making the team.

                                  I'd expect Beauden and Ardie (assuming he's in the country) to be there - and probably some of the injured guys who won't be fit for England - Jordan, Roigard etc.

                                  Yeah I agree. Barrett as capt is pretty obvious for his connection with Razor to be Captain, ala Cane with foster. At least he is by far the best in his role, unlike Cane for his entire tenure

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    hmmmm....

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    hmmmm....

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                                    Starting to have faith in this Razor bloke.

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                      Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                      That's not the way Razor works.

                                      It'll be because they still rate him

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                                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                      Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                      That's not the way Razor works.

                                      It'll be because they still rate him

                                      When did Razor drop Crockett on 99 caps?

                                      I think you have your wires crossed. Razor dropped Crockett for his last game for the Crusaders in a Super Rugby Final.

                                      Agree with you though, it will be because they still rate him. Razor doesn’t seem one to hand games out just to be a nice guy.

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                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                        Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                        That's not the way Razor works.

                                        It'll be because they still rate him

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                                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                        Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                        That's not the way Razor works.

                                        It'll be because they still rate him

                                        On what basis though? He's hardly played this year and when he has it has been in the Japan league which is a massive step down from test rugby. Razor made a comment that he was going to pick the 'best players', Cane isn't that anymore. What's the point in even selecting him anyway when we have other guys that can do the job, who have the chance to get a taste of international footy, and who aren't retiring at seasons end.

                                        I wonder if Devlin has been asked to stir the pot so there are more eyeballs on Sky next Monday for the announcement. I'm beginning to think Devlin might be @george33 in disguise. Cane's chances of making the ABs - 50/50

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                                        • Landers92L Landers92

                                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                          Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                          That's not the way Razor works.

                                          It'll be because they still rate him

                                          When did Razor drop Crockett on 99 caps?

                                          I think you have your wires crossed. Razor dropped Crockett for his last game for the Crusaders in a Super Rugby Final.

                                          Agree with you though, it will be because they still rate him. Razor doesn’t seem one to hand games out just to be a nice guy.

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                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          It seemed like a negotiated exit.. he cuts his (expensive) contract short in return he gets nursed to 100 caps

                                          Considering Razor dropped Wyatt Crockett on 99 caps, I highly doubt he is being "nursed" to 100.
                                          That's not the way Razor works.

                                          It'll be because they still rate him

                                          When did Razor drop Crockett on 99 caps?

                                          I think you have your wires crossed. Razor dropped Crockett for his last game for the Crusaders in a Super Rugby Final.

                                          Agree with you though, it will be because they still rate him. Razor doesn’t seem one to hand games out just to be a nice guy.

                                          Oh you are right, dropped for last game.

                                          Point still stands about a ruthless focus on team performance and sentiment not clouding selections. Especially since in the case of Cane there is no pre-existing coach-player relationship

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