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Name Your AB Team

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

    The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

    Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

    Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

    I'd pick Billy Proctor ahead of AJ Lam, but I'd pick both of them and McLeod ahead of David Havili now.

    Genuinely baffling selection, if true.

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      Unless Super Rugby form means absolutely nothing, I think Sam Darry should be given an All Blacks call. He has flourished in recent weeks under Vern Cotter's direction.

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        Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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        • TimT Tim

          Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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          @Tim

          England I believe

          https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/12020310/will-greenwood-why-wouldnt-england-talk-to-hoskins-sotutu

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

            @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

            1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

            2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

            3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

            4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

            5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

            6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

            Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

            Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year.

            Different coaches.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

              @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

              1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

              2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

              3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

              4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

              5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

              6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

              Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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              @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

              Hookers:
              Taylor
              Aumua
              Bell if no Taukieho

              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

              Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

              Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

              But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                Hookers:
                Taylor
                Aumua
                Bell if no Taukieho

                @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

                Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

                But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

                @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                Hookers:
                Taylor
                Aumua
                Bell if no Taukieho

                @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

                Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

                But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

                Will Jordan's still injured. I'm fairly certain he'd be in everyone's squad if fit.

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                • TimT Tim

                  Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                  @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                  Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformational player for English Rugby.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                    Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformational player for English Rugby.

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                    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                    Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformation player for English Rugby.

                    Settle down

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                      Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformation player for English Rugby.

                      Settle down

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                      @MN5 Coming soon to the Calcutta Cup, Hoskins Sotutu. Brought to you by Razor and co!

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                        Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

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                          These threads are going to be on fire tomorrow.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

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                            @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                            Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                            Razor should just name the entire Blues squad, throw in a couple of Barretts and be done with it.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

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                              @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                              Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                              Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                These threads are going to be on fire tomorrow.

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                                @Chris They already are.

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                                  @Chris They already are.

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                                  @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Chris They already are.

                                  Wait until tomorrow

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                    Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

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                                    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                    Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

                                    Not when Cullen Grace is around

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                      Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

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                                      @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                      Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

                                      Got a list of the players of the year? That might make it easier to think of one.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                        Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

                                        Got a list of the players of the year? That might make it easier to think of one.

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                                        @Bones said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                        Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

                                        Got a list of the players of the year? That might make it easier to think of one.

                                        Is there such a list ?

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                          Razor should just name the entire Blues squad, throw in a couple of Barretts and be done with it.

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                                          @MN5 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                          Razor should just name the entire Blues squad, throw in a couple of Barretts and be done with it.

                                          By the looks of things you could throw in a couple of canes fans in the delighted category.

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