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Name Your AB Team

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

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    @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

    @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

    Hell, I'd be tempted to put him ahead of BB based on his last form in black

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    • C chchfanatic

      Props:
      de Groot
      Williams
      Tu'ungafasi
      Lomax
      Newell
      Bower

      Hookers:
      Taylor
      Aumua
      Bell if no Taukieho

      Locks:
      Barrett CC
      Tuipulotu
      Vaa'i

      Loose Forwards:
      Papalii
      Savea CC
      Blackadder
      Sititi
      Finau
      Cane

      Halfbacks:
      Christie
      Perenara
      Ratima

      First Fives:
      McKenzie
      Plummer

      Midfielders:
      Barrett
      Havili
      Ioane
      Lienert-Brown

      Outside Backs:
      Tele'a
      Clarke
      Reece
      Narawa
      Barrett

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      @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

      1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

      2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

      3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

      4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

      5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

      6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

        @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

        Props:
        de Groot
        Williams
        Tu'ungafasi
        Lomax
        Newell
        Bower

        Hookers:
        Taylor
        Aumua
        Bell if no Taukieho

        Locks:
        Barrett CC
        Tuipulotu
        Vaa'i

        Loose Forwards:
        Papalii
        Savea CC
        Blackadder
        Sititi
        Finau
        Cane

        Halfbacks:
        Christie
        Perenara
        Ratima

        First Fives:
        McKenzie
        Plummer

        Midfielders:
        Barrett
        Havili
        Ioane
        Lienert-Brown

        Outside Backs:
        Tele'a
        Clarke
        Reece
        Narawa
        Barrett

        You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

        Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

        How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

        Fireworks incoming.

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        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

        @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

        Props:
        de Groot
        Williams
        Tu'ungafasi
        Lomax
        Newell
        Bower

        Hookers:
        Taylor
        Aumua
        Bell if no Taukieho

        Locks:
        Barrett CC
        Tuipulotu
        Vaa'i

        Loose Forwards:
        Papalii
        Savea CC
        Blackadder
        Sititi
        Finau
        Cane

        Halfbacks:
        Christie
        Perenara
        Ratima

        First Fives:
        McKenzie
        Plummer

        Midfielders:
        Barrett
        Havili
        Ioane
        Lienert-Brown

        Outside Backs:
        Tele'a
        Clarke
        Reece
        Narawa
        Barrett

        You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

        Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

        How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

        Fireworks incoming.

        It'll be eggs cooked over fireworks if an AB team wipe England with names like Strange and Havili.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

          1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

          2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

          3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

          4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

          5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

          6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

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          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

          @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

          1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

          2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

          3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

          4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

          5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

          6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

          Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

            @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

            1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

            2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

            3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

            4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

            5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

            6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

            Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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            @Canes4life Aumua will be delighted to get an AB recall.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

              The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

              Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

              I'd pick Billy Proctor ahead of AJ Lam, but I'd pick both of them and McLeod ahead of David Havili now.

              Genuinely baffling selection, if true.

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                Unless Super Rugby form means absolutely nothing, I think Sam Darry should be given an All Blacks call. He has flourished in recent weeks under Vern Cotter's direction.

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                • TimT Away
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                  Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                    @Tim

                    England I believe

                    https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/12020310/will-greenwood-why-wouldnt-england-talk-to-hoskins-sotutu

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                      1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                      2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                      3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                      4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                      5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                      6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                      Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                      #225

                      @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year.

                      Different coaches.

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                        1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                        2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                        3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                        4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                        5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                        6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                        Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                        @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Hookers:
                        Taylor
                        Aumua
                        Bell if no Taukieho

                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

                        Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

                        But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

                          Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

                          But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

                          Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

                          But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

                          Will Jordan's still injured. I'm fairly certain he'd be in everyone's squad if fit.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                            @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                            Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformational player for English Rugby.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                              Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformational player for English Rugby.

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                              @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                              Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformation player for English Rugby.

                              Settle down

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Tim His mother is English. Eddie Jones was in conversation with him before he was firstly picked for the ABs.

                                Steve Borthwick and the RFU would be insane not to throw a lot of money at Hoskins Sotutu if he is unwanted by the ABs. He would be an utterly transformation player for English Rugby.

                                Settle down

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                                @MN5 Coming soon to the Calcutta Cup, Hoskins Sotutu. Brought to you by Razor and co!

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                                  Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

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                                    These threads are going to be on fire tomorrow.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

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                                      @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                      Razor should just name the entire Blues squad, throw in a couple of Barretts and be done with it.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

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                                        @taniwharugby said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Wow, anyone would think a form player has never missed selection before...

                                        Hard to think of a time before when the NZ Super Rugby player of the season has been totally overlooked by the selectors. Not picking Hoskins Sotutu for the AB squad would be a genuine jaw-dropper.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          These threads are going to be on fire tomorrow.

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                                          @Chris They already are.

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