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  • F Frank

    I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
    Both are young and have high potential.
    Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
    Hard luck on Numia.

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    canefan
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    #197

    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
    Both are young and have high potential.
    Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
    Hard luck on Numia.

    Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
      Both are young and have high potential.
      Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
      Hard luck on Numia.

      Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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      Canes4life
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      #198

      @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
      Both are young and have high potential.
      Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
      Hard luck on Numia.

      Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

      I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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        KiwiMurph
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        #199

        Speaking of young props - Fusitua could be one to keep an eye on in a year or so. Good scrummager. Mobile. AB XV candidate perhaps

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
          Both are young and have high potential.
          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
          Hard luck on Numia.

          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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          #200

          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
          Both are young and have high potential.
          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
          Hard luck on Numia.

          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

          Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
            Both are young and have high potential.
            Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
            Hard luck on Numia.

            Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

            I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

            Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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            #201

            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
            Both are young and have high potential.
            Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
            Hard luck on Numia.

            Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

            I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

            Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

            100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
              Both are young and have high potential.
              Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
              Hard luck on Numia.

              Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

              I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

              Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

              100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
              Both are young and have high potential.
              Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
              Hard luck on Numia.

              Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

              I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

              Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

              100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

              Injuries killed us. But our fozz blacks game plan in the SF was a self inflicted wound that we must learn from

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                Canes4life
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                #203

                The AB team I want to see tomorrow is as follows (excluding injured players). In brackets are players I think will be picked by Razor based on the chat.

                Props
                Lomax
                Newell
                Tu'ungafasi
                Williams
                De Groot

                Hookers:
                Taylor
                Aumua
                Riccitelli (Bell)

                Locks:
                Darry (Vaa'i)
                Barrett
                Tuipolotu
                Walker-Leawere (Strange)

                Loose forwards:
                Papali'i
                Sotutu (Sititi)
                Lakai (Cane)
                Savea
                Finau
                Blackadder

                Halfbacks:
                Perenara
                Ratima
                Christie

                First Fives:
                McKenzie
                Plummer

                Centres:
                Proctor (Havili)
                Ioane
                Barrett
                ALB

                Outside backs:
                Clarke
                Reece
                Telea
                Love (Barrett)
                Narawa

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                  canefan
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                  #204

                  I could live with that list, minus the bracketed players!

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                    #205

                    If Chchfanatic is right and Scott and Ardie are going to be co-captains, I think I like that. Makes some sense to share the load in this day and age.

                    I think another interesting thing where Razor's experience might be in play is that he's not naming his team until Monday night. Gives the winners an opportunity to celebrate (and the losers to decompress) without having to worry about leaping on a plane to Christchurch at 9am on Sunday morning. Temptation would have been to rush everyone into camp. Hope it doesn't backfire!

                    Incidentally, congratulations to the Blues.

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                    • C chchfanatic

                      Props:
                      de Groot
                      Williams
                      Tu'ungafasi
                      Lomax
                      Newell
                      Bower

                      Hookers:
                      Taylor
                      Aumua
                      Bell if no Taukieho

                      Locks:
                      Barrett CC
                      Tuipulotu
                      Vaa'i

                      Loose Forwards:
                      Papalii
                      Savea CC
                      Blackadder
                      Sititi
                      Finau
                      Cane

                      Halfbacks:
                      Christie
                      Perenara
                      Ratima

                      First Fives:
                      McKenzie
                      Plummer

                      Midfielders:
                      Barrett
                      Havili
                      Ioane
                      Lienert-Brown

                      Outside Backs:
                      Tele'a
                      Clarke
                      Reece
                      Narawa
                      Barrett

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                      Landers92
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                      #206

                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Props:
                      de Groot
                      Williams
                      Tu'ungafasi
                      Lomax
                      Newell
                      Bower

                      Hookers:
                      Taylor
                      Aumua
                      Bell if no Taukieho

                      Locks:
                      Barrett CC
                      Tuipulotu
                      Vaa'i

                      Loose Forwards:
                      Papalii
                      Savea CC
                      Blackadder
                      Sititi
                      Finau
                      Cane

                      Halfbacks:
                      Christie
                      Perenara
                      Ratima

                      First Fives:
                      McKenzie
                      Plummer

                      Midfielders:
                      Barrett
                      Havili
                      Ioane
                      Lienert-Brown

                      Outside Backs:
                      Tele'a
                      Clarke
                      Reece
                      Narawa
                      Barrett

                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                        Very average based on a few of those selections.

                        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

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                        #207

                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                        Very average based on a few of those selections.

                        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                        • Landers92L Landers92

                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Props:
                          de Groot
                          Williams
                          Tu'ungafasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Bower

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          Locks:
                          Barrett CC
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaa'i

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Papalii
                          Savea CC
                          Blackadder
                          Sititi
                          Finau
                          Cane

                          Halfbacks:
                          Christie
                          Perenara
                          Ratima

                          First Fives:
                          McKenzie
                          Plummer

                          Midfielders:
                          Barrett
                          Havili
                          Ioane
                          Lienert-Brown

                          Outside Backs:
                          Tele'a
                          Clarke
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Barrett

                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                          #208

                          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Props:
                          de Groot
                          Williams
                          Tu'ungafasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Bower

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          Locks:
                          Barrett CC
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaa'i

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Papalii
                          Savea CC
                          Blackadder
                          Sititi
                          Finau
                          Cane

                          Halfbacks:
                          Christie
                          Perenara
                          Ratima

                          First Fives:
                          McKenzie
                          Plummer

                          Midfielders:
                          Barrett
                          Havili
                          Ioane
                          Lienert-Brown

                          Outside Backs:
                          Tele'a
                          Clarke
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Barrett

                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                            It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                            Very average based on a few of those selections.

                            The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                            Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                            Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                            #209

                            @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                            It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                            Very average based on a few of those selections.

                            The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                            Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                            Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

                            Definitely better in Fozzies last year. The Irish QF was the peak

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                              The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

                              Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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                              #210

                              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                              If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                              Who was that BTW? Not being a dick, the Final was literally the only Super game I’ve watched this season

                              Sotutu?

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                                #211

                                Yes, Sotutu.

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                                • F Frank

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                                  The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                                  Havili can play all three.
                                  Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
                                  I don't like it either.
                                  Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  Havili can play all three.

                                  People keep saying this, but he can't. And if he can, it's to a much lower level than Jordie can.

                                  But Havili was deemed such a failure at ten for the crusaders, that a loudly proclaimed "he will play there until the end of the season" was u-turned sharply after two games.

                                  And then in a season where Jordan is injured, Havili didn't play fullback. He hasn't played there in years.

                                  The only thing I can think of, is he's played his best rugby under Razor and he believes he's got the key to unlocking that at test level.

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                                  • ChrisC Chris

                                    @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    Props:
                                    de Groot
                                    Williams
                                    Tu'ungafasi
                                    Lomax
                                    Newell
                                    Bower

                                    Hookers:
                                    Taylor
                                    Aumua
                                    Bell if no Taukieho

                                    Locks:
                                    Barrett CC
                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Vaa'i

                                    Loose Forwards:
                                    Papalii
                                    Savea CC
                                    Blackadder
                                    Sititi
                                    Finau
                                    Cane

                                    Halfbacks:
                                    Christie
                                    Perenara
                                    Ratima

                                    First Fives:
                                    McKenzie
                                    Plummer

                                    Midfielders:
                                    Barrett
                                    Havili
                                    Ioane
                                    Lienert-Brown

                                    Outside Backs:
                                    Tele'a
                                    Clarke
                                    Reece
                                    Narawa
                                    Barrett

                                    You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                    Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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                                    #213

                                    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    Props:
                                    de Groot
                                    Williams
                                    Tu'ungafasi
                                    Lomax
                                    Newell
                                    Bower

                                    Hookers:
                                    Taylor
                                    Aumua
                                    Bell if no Taukieho

                                    Locks:
                                    Barrett CC
                                    Tuipulotu
                                    Vaa'i

                                    Loose Forwards:
                                    Papalii
                                    Savea CC
                                    Blackadder
                                    Sititi
                                    Finau
                                    Cane

                                    Halfbacks:
                                    Christie
                                    Perenara
                                    Ratima

                                    First Fives:
                                    McKenzie
                                    Plummer

                                    Midfielders:
                                    Barrett
                                    Havili
                                    Ioane
                                    Lienert-Brown

                                    Outside Backs:
                                    Tele'a
                                    Clarke
                                    Reece
                                    Narawa
                                    Barrett

                                    You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                    Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                                    How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                                    Fireworks incoming.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Props:
                                      de Groot
                                      Williams
                                      Tu'ungafasi
                                      Lomax
                                      Newell
                                      Bower

                                      Hookers:
                                      Taylor
                                      Aumua
                                      Bell if no Taukieho

                                      Locks:
                                      Barrett CC
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Vaa'i

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      Papalii
                                      Savea CC
                                      Blackadder
                                      Sititi
                                      Finau
                                      Cane

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      Christie
                                      Perenara
                                      Ratima

                                      First Fives:
                                      McKenzie
                                      Plummer

                                      Midfielders:
                                      Barrett
                                      Havili
                                      Ioane
                                      Lienert-Brown

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      Tele'a
                                      Clarke
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Barrett

                                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                      Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                                      How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                                      Fireworks incoming.

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                                      #214

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Props:
                                      de Groot
                                      Williams
                                      Tu'ungafasi
                                      Lomax
                                      Newell
                                      Bower

                                      Hookers:
                                      Taylor
                                      Aumua
                                      Bell if no Taukieho

                                      Locks:
                                      Barrett CC
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Vaa'i

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      Papalii
                                      Savea CC
                                      Blackadder
                                      Sititi
                                      Finau
                                      Cane

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      Christie
                                      Perenara
                                      Ratima

                                      First Fives:
                                      McKenzie
                                      Plummer

                                      Midfielders:
                                      Barrett
                                      Havili
                                      Ioane
                                      Lienert-Brown

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      Tele'a
                                      Clarke
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Barrett

                                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                      Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                                      How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                                      Fireworks incoming.

                                      Even better

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                                      • F frugby

                                        Final All Blacks Squad Prediction

                                        Props:
                                        de Groot
                                        Williams
                                        Tu'ungafasi
                                        Lomax
                                        Newell

                                        Hookers:
                                        Taylor
                                        Aumua
                                        McAllister (If Taukei'aho is injured)

                                        Locks:
                                        Barrett
                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Darry
                                        Vaa'i

                                        Loose Forwards:
                                        Papalii
                                        Savea
                                        Blackadder
                                        Sotutu
                                        Finau
                                        Lakai

                                        Halfbacks:
                                        Christie
                                        Perenara
                                        Fakatava

                                        First Fives:
                                        McKenzie
                                        Barrett
                                        Perofeta

                                        Midfielders:
                                        Barrett
                                        Havili
                                        Ioane
                                        Lienert-Brown

                                        Outside Backs:
                                        Tele'a
                                        Clarke
                                        Reece
                                        Narawa

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                                        #215

                                        @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

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                                          #216

                                          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

                                          Hell, I'd be tempted to put him ahead of BB based on his last form in black

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