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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
    wrote on last edited by
    #205

    If Chchfanatic is right and Scott and Ardie are going to be co-captains, I think I like that. Makes some sense to share the load in this day and age.

    I think another interesting thing where Razor's experience might be in play is that he's not naming his team until Monday night. Gives the winners an opportunity to celebrate (and the losers to decompress) without having to worry about leaping on a plane to Christchurch at 9am on Sunday morning. Temptation would have been to rush everyone into camp. Hope it doesn't backfire!

    Incidentally, congratulations to the Blues.

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    • C chchfanatic

      Props:
      de Groot
      Williams
      Tu'ungafasi
      Lomax
      Newell
      Bower

      Hookers:
      Taylor
      Aumua
      Bell if no Taukieho

      Locks:
      Barrett CC
      Tuipulotu
      Vaa'i

      Loose Forwards:
      Papalii
      Savea CC
      Blackadder
      Sititi
      Finau
      Cane

      Halfbacks:
      Christie
      Perenara
      Ratima

      First Fives:
      McKenzie
      Plummer

      Midfielders:
      Barrett
      Havili
      Ioane
      Lienert-Brown

      Outside Backs:
      Tele'a
      Clarke
      Reece
      Narawa
      Barrett

      Landers92L Do not disturb
      Landers92L Do not disturb
      Landers92
      wrote on last edited by Landers92
      #206

      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

      Props:
      de Groot
      Williams
      Tu'ungafasi
      Lomax
      Newell
      Bower

      Hookers:
      Taylor
      Aumua
      Bell if no Taukieho

      Locks:
      Barrett CC
      Tuipulotu
      Vaa'i

      Loose Forwards:
      Papalii
      Savea CC
      Blackadder
      Sititi
      Finau
      Cane

      Halfbacks:
      Christie
      Perenara
      Ratima

      First Fives:
      McKenzie
      Plummer

      Midfielders:
      Barrett
      Havili
      Ioane
      Lienert-Brown

      Outside Backs:
      Tele'a
      Clarke
      Reece
      Narawa
      Barrett

      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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      • canefanC canefan

        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

        Very average based on a few of those selections.

        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

        ACT CrusaderA Offline
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        ACT Crusader
        wrote on last edited by
        #207

        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

        Very average based on a few of those selections.

        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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        • Landers92L Landers92

          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

          Props:
          de Groot
          Williams
          Tu'ungafasi
          Lomax
          Newell
          Bower

          Hookers:
          Taylor
          Aumua
          Bell if no Taukieho

          Locks:
          Barrett CC
          Tuipulotu
          Vaa'i

          Loose Forwards:
          Papalii
          Savea CC
          Blackadder
          Sititi
          Finau
          Cane

          Halfbacks:
          Christie
          Perenara
          Ratima

          First Fives:
          McKenzie
          Plummer

          Midfielders:
          Barrett
          Havili
          Ioane
          Lienert-Brown

          Outside Backs:
          Tele'a
          Clarke
          Reece
          Narawa
          Barrett

          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

          ChrisC Online
          ChrisC Online
          Chris
          wrote on last edited by
          #208

          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

          Props:
          de Groot
          Williams
          Tu'ungafasi
          Lomax
          Newell
          Bower

          Hookers:
          Taylor
          Aumua
          Bell if no Taukieho

          Locks:
          Barrett CC
          Tuipulotu
          Vaa'i

          Loose Forwards:
          Papalii
          Savea CC
          Blackadder
          Sititi
          Finau
          Cane

          Halfbacks:
          Christie
          Perenara
          Ratima

          First Fives:
          McKenzie
          Plummer

          Midfielders:
          Barrett
          Havili
          Ioane
          Lienert-Brown

          Outside Backs:
          Tele'a
          Clarke
          Reece
          Narawa
          Barrett

          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

            It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

            Very average based on a few of those selections.

            The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

            Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

            Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

            canefanC Online
            canefanC Online
            canefan
            wrote on last edited by
            #209

            @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

            It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

            Very average based on a few of those selections.

            The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

            Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

            Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

            Definitely better in Fozzies last year. The Irish QF was the peak

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

              The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

              Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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              voodoo
              wrote on last edited by
              #210

              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

              Who was that BTW? Not being a dick, the Final was literally the only Super game I’ve watched this season

              Sotutu?

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              • KirwanK Offline
                KirwanK Offline
                Kirwan
                wrote on last edited by
                #211

                Yes, Sotutu.

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                • F Frank

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                  The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                  Havili can play all three.
                  Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
                  I don't like it either.
                  Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

                  BonesB Offline
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                  Bones
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #212

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Havili can play all three.

                  People keep saying this, but he can't. And if he can, it's to a much lower level than Jordie can.

                  But Havili was deemed such a failure at ten for the crusaders, that a loudly proclaimed "he will play there until the end of the season" was u-turned sharply after two games.

                  And then in a season where Jordan is injured, Havili didn't play fullback. He hasn't played there in years.

                  The only thing I can think of, is he's played his best rugby under Razor and he believes he's got the key to unlocking that at test level.

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                    Props:
                    de Groot
                    Williams
                    Tu'ungafasi
                    Lomax
                    Newell
                    Bower

                    Hookers:
                    Taylor
                    Aumua
                    Bell if no Taukieho

                    Locks:
                    Barrett CC
                    Tuipulotu
                    Vaa'i

                    Loose Forwards:
                    Papalii
                    Savea CC
                    Blackadder
                    Sititi
                    Finau
                    Cane

                    Halfbacks:
                    Christie
                    Perenara
                    Ratima

                    First Fives:
                    McKenzie
                    Plummer

                    Midfielders:
                    Barrett
                    Havili
                    Ioane
                    Lienert-Brown

                    Outside Backs:
                    Tele'a
                    Clarke
                    Reece
                    Narawa
                    Barrett

                    You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                    Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                    KiwiMurphK Offline
                    KiwiMurphK Offline
                    KiwiMurph
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #213

                    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                    Props:
                    de Groot
                    Williams
                    Tu'ungafasi
                    Lomax
                    Newell
                    Bower

                    Hookers:
                    Taylor
                    Aumua
                    Bell if no Taukieho

                    Locks:
                    Barrett CC
                    Tuipulotu
                    Vaa'i

                    Loose Forwards:
                    Papalii
                    Savea CC
                    Blackadder
                    Sititi
                    Finau
                    Cane

                    Halfbacks:
                    Christie
                    Perenara
                    Ratima

                    First Fives:
                    McKenzie
                    Plummer

                    Midfielders:
                    Barrett
                    Havili
                    Ioane
                    Lienert-Brown

                    Outside Backs:
                    Tele'a
                    Clarke
                    Reece
                    Narawa
                    Barrett

                    You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                    Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                    How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                    Fireworks incoming.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Props:
                      de Groot
                      Williams
                      Tu'ungafasi
                      Lomax
                      Newell
                      Bower

                      Hookers:
                      Taylor
                      Aumua
                      Bell if no Taukieho

                      Locks:
                      Barrett CC
                      Tuipulotu
                      Vaa'i

                      Loose Forwards:
                      Papalii
                      Savea CC
                      Blackadder
                      Sititi
                      Finau
                      Cane

                      Halfbacks:
                      Christie
                      Perenara
                      Ratima

                      First Fives:
                      McKenzie
                      Plummer

                      Midfielders:
                      Barrett
                      Havili
                      Ioane
                      Lienert-Brown

                      Outside Backs:
                      Tele'a
                      Clarke
                      Reece
                      Narawa
                      Barrett

                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                      Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                      How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                      Fireworks incoming.

                      ChrisC Online
                      ChrisC Online
                      Chris
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #214

                      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Props:
                      de Groot
                      Williams
                      Tu'ungafasi
                      Lomax
                      Newell
                      Bower

                      Hookers:
                      Taylor
                      Aumua
                      Bell if no Taukieho

                      Locks:
                      Barrett CC
                      Tuipulotu
                      Vaa'i

                      Loose Forwards:
                      Papalii
                      Savea CC
                      Blackadder
                      Sititi
                      Finau
                      Cane

                      Halfbacks:
                      Christie
                      Perenara
                      Ratima

                      First Fives:
                      McKenzie
                      Plummer

                      Midfielders:
                      Barrett
                      Havili
                      Ioane
                      Lienert-Brown

                      Outside Backs:
                      Tele'a
                      Clarke
                      Reece
                      Narawa
                      Barrett

                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                      Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                      How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                      Fireworks incoming.

                      Even better

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                      • F frugby

                        Final All Blacks Squad Prediction

                        Props:
                        de Groot
                        Williams
                        Tu'ungafasi
                        Lomax
                        Newell

                        Hookers:
                        Taylor
                        Aumua
                        McAllister (If Taukei'aho is injured)

                        Locks:
                        Barrett
                        Tuipulotu
                        Darry
                        Vaa'i

                        Loose Forwards:
                        Papalii
                        Savea
                        Blackadder
                        Sotutu
                        Finau
                        Lakai

                        Halfbacks:
                        Christie
                        Perenara
                        Fakatava

                        First Fives:
                        McKenzie
                        Barrett
                        Perofeta

                        Midfielders:
                        Barrett
                        Havili
                        Ioane
                        Lienert-Brown

                        Outside Backs:
                        Tele'a
                        Clarke
                        Reece
                        Narawa

                        sparkyS Offline
                        sparkyS Offline
                        sparky
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #215

                        @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

                          canefanC Online
                          canefanC Online
                          canefan
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #216

                          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

                          Hell, I'd be tempted to put him ahead of BB based on his last form in black

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                          • C chchfanatic

                            Props:
                            de Groot
                            Williams
                            Tu'ungafasi
                            Lomax
                            Newell
                            Bower

                            Hookers:
                            Taylor
                            Aumua
                            Bell if no Taukieho

                            Locks:
                            Barrett CC
                            Tuipulotu
                            Vaa'i

                            Loose Forwards:
                            Papalii
                            Savea CC
                            Blackadder
                            Sititi
                            Finau
                            Cane

                            Halfbacks:
                            Christie
                            Perenara
                            Ratima

                            First Fives:
                            McKenzie
                            Plummer

                            Midfielders:
                            Barrett
                            Havili
                            Ioane
                            Lienert-Brown

                            Outside Backs:
                            Tele'a
                            Clarke
                            Reece
                            Narawa
                            Barrett

                            sparkyS Offline
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                            sparky
                            wrote on last edited by sparky
                            #217

                            @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                            1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                            2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                            3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                            4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                            5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                            6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                              Props:
                              de Groot
                              Williams
                              Tu'ungafasi
                              Lomax
                              Newell
                              Bower

                              Hookers:
                              Taylor
                              Aumua
                              Bell if no Taukieho

                              Locks:
                              Barrett CC
                              Tuipulotu
                              Vaa'i

                              Loose Forwards:
                              Papalii
                              Savea CC
                              Blackadder
                              Sititi
                              Finau
                              Cane

                              Halfbacks:
                              Christie
                              Perenara
                              Ratima

                              First Fives:
                              McKenzie
                              Plummer

                              Midfielders:
                              Barrett
                              Havili
                              Ioane
                              Lienert-Brown

                              Outside Backs:
                              Tele'a
                              Clarke
                              Reece
                              Narawa
                              Barrett

                              You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                              Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                              How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                              Fireworks incoming.

                              BonesB Offline
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                              Bones
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #218

                              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                              Props:
                              de Groot
                              Williams
                              Tu'ungafasi
                              Lomax
                              Newell
                              Bower

                              Hookers:
                              Taylor
                              Aumua
                              Bell if no Taukieho

                              Locks:
                              Barrett CC
                              Tuipulotu
                              Vaa'i

                              Loose Forwards:
                              Papalii
                              Savea CC
                              Blackadder
                              Sititi
                              Finau
                              Cane

                              Halfbacks:
                              Christie
                              Perenara
                              Ratima

                              First Fives:
                              McKenzie
                              Plummer

                              Midfielders:
                              Barrett
                              Havili
                              Ioane
                              Lienert-Brown

                              Outside Backs:
                              Tele'a
                              Clarke
                              Reece
                              Narawa
                              Barrett

                              You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                              Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                              How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                              Fireworks incoming.

                              It'll be eggs cooked over fireworks if an AB team wipe England with names like Strange and Havili.

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                                1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                                2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                                3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                                4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                                5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                                6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

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                                Canes4lifeC Online
                                Canes4life
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #219

                                @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                                1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                                2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                                3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                                4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                                5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                                6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                                Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                                  1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                                  2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                                  3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                                  4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                                  5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                                  6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                                  Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                                  sparky
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #220

                                  @Canes4life Aumua will be delighted to get an AB recall.

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                                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                                    If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                                    The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

                                    Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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                                    sparky
                                    wrote on last edited by sparky
                                    #221

                                    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

                                    I'd pick Billy Proctor ahead of AJ Lam, but I'd pick both of them and McLeod ahead of David Havili now.

                                    Genuinely baffling selection, if true.

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                                    • sparkyS Offline
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                                      sparky
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #222

                                      Unless Super Rugby form means absolutely nothing, I think Sam Darry should be given an All Blacks call. He has flourished in recent weeks under Vern Cotter's direction.

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                                      • TimT Away
                                        TimT Away
                                        Tim
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #223

                                        Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                                          gt12
                                          wrote on last edited by gt12
                                          #224

                                          @Tim

                                          England I believe

                                          https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/12020310/will-greenwood-why-wouldnt-england-talk-to-hoskins-sotutu

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