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  • canefanC canefan

    @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

    It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

    Very average based on a few of those selections.

    The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

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    @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

    It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

    Very average based on a few of those selections.

    The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

    Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

    Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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    • Landers92L Landers92

      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

      Props:
      de Groot
      Williams
      Tu'ungafasi
      Lomax
      Newell
      Bower

      Hookers:
      Taylor
      Aumua
      Bell if no Taukieho

      Locks:
      Barrett CC
      Tuipulotu
      Vaa'i

      Loose Forwards:
      Papalii
      Savea CC
      Blackadder
      Sititi
      Finau
      Cane

      Halfbacks:
      Christie
      Perenara
      Ratima

      First Fives:
      McKenzie
      Plummer

      Midfielders:
      Barrett
      Havili
      Ioane
      Lienert-Brown

      Outside Backs:
      Tele'a
      Clarke
      Reece
      Narawa
      Barrett

      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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      Chris
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      #208

      @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

      Props:
      de Groot
      Williams
      Tu'ungafasi
      Lomax
      Newell
      Bower

      Hookers:
      Taylor
      Aumua
      Bell if no Taukieho

      Locks:
      Barrett CC
      Tuipulotu
      Vaa'i

      Loose Forwards:
      Papalii
      Savea CC
      Blackadder
      Sititi
      Finau
      Cane

      Halfbacks:
      Christie
      Perenara
      Ratima

      First Fives:
      McKenzie
      Plummer

      Midfielders:
      Barrett
      Havili
      Ioane
      Lienert-Brown

      Outside Backs:
      Tele'a
      Clarke
      Reece
      Narawa
      Barrett

      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

      Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

        Very average based on a few of those selections.

        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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        canefan
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        #209

        @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

        Very average based on a few of those selections.

        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

        Definitely better in Fozzies last year. The Irish QF was the peak

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

          The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

          Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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          @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

          If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

          Who was that BTW? Not being a dick, the Final was literally the only Super game I’ve watched this season

          Sotutu?

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            wrote on last edited by
            #211

            Yes, Sotutu.

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            • F Frank

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

              The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

              Havili can play all three.
              Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
              I don't like it either.
              Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              Havili can play all three.

              People keep saying this, but he can't. And if he can, it's to a much lower level than Jordie can.

              But Havili was deemed such a failure at ten for the crusaders, that a loudly proclaimed "he will play there until the end of the season" was u-turned sharply after two games.

              And then in a season where Jordan is injured, Havili didn't play fullback. He hasn't played there in years.

              The only thing I can think of, is he's played his best rugby under Razor and he believes he's got the key to unlocking that at test level.

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                Props:
                de Groot
                Williams
                Tu'ungafasi
                Lomax
                Newell
                Bower

                Hookers:
                Taylor
                Aumua
                Bell if no Taukieho

                Locks:
                Barrett CC
                Tuipulotu
                Vaa'i

                Loose Forwards:
                Papalii
                Savea CC
                Blackadder
                Sititi
                Finau
                Cane

                Halfbacks:
                Christie
                Perenara
                Ratima

                First Fives:
                McKenzie
                Plummer

                Midfielders:
                Barrett
                Havili
                Ioane
                Lienert-Brown

                Outside Backs:
                Tele'a
                Clarke
                Reece
                Narawa
                Barrett

                You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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                wrote on last edited by
                #213

                @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                Props:
                de Groot
                Williams
                Tu'ungafasi
                Lomax
                Newell
                Bower

                Hookers:
                Taylor
                Aumua
                Bell if no Taukieho

                Locks:
                Barrett CC
                Tuipulotu
                Vaa'i

                Loose Forwards:
                Papalii
                Savea CC
                Blackadder
                Sititi
                Finau
                Cane

                Halfbacks:
                Christie
                Perenara
                Ratima

                First Fives:
                McKenzie
                Plummer

                Midfielders:
                Barrett
                Havili
                Ioane
                Lienert-Brown

                Outside Backs:
                Tele'a
                Clarke
                Reece
                Narawa
                Barrett

                You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                Fireworks incoming.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Props:
                  de Groot
                  Williams
                  Tu'ungafasi
                  Lomax
                  Newell
                  Bower

                  Hookers:
                  Taylor
                  Aumua
                  Bell if no Taukieho

                  Locks:
                  Barrett CC
                  Tuipulotu
                  Vaa'i

                  Loose Forwards:
                  Papalii
                  Savea CC
                  Blackadder
                  Sititi
                  Finau
                  Cane

                  Halfbacks:
                  Christie
                  Perenara
                  Ratima

                  First Fives:
                  McKenzie
                  Plummer

                  Midfielders:
                  Barrett
                  Havili
                  Ioane
                  Lienert-Brown

                  Outside Backs:
                  Tele'a
                  Clarke
                  Reece
                  Narawa
                  Barrett

                  You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                  Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                  How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                  Fireworks incoming.

                  ChrisC Online
                  ChrisC Online
                  Chris
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #214

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Props:
                  de Groot
                  Williams
                  Tu'ungafasi
                  Lomax
                  Newell
                  Bower

                  Hookers:
                  Taylor
                  Aumua
                  Bell if no Taukieho

                  Locks:
                  Barrett CC
                  Tuipulotu
                  Vaa'i

                  Loose Forwards:
                  Papalii
                  Savea CC
                  Blackadder
                  Sititi
                  Finau
                  Cane

                  Halfbacks:
                  Christie
                  Perenara
                  Ratima

                  First Fives:
                  McKenzie
                  Plummer

                  Midfielders:
                  Barrett
                  Havili
                  Ioane
                  Lienert-Brown

                  Outside Backs:
                  Tele'a
                  Clarke
                  Reece
                  Narawa
                  Barrett

                  You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                  Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                  How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                  Fireworks incoming.

                  Even better

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                  • F frugby

                    Final All Blacks Squad Prediction

                    Props:
                    de Groot
                    Williams
                    Tu'ungafasi
                    Lomax
                    Newell

                    Hookers:
                    Taylor
                    Aumua
                    McAllister (If Taukei'aho is injured)

                    Locks:
                    Barrett
                    Tuipulotu
                    Darry
                    Vaa'i

                    Loose Forwards:
                    Papalii
                    Savea
                    Blackadder
                    Sotutu
                    Finau
                    Lakai

                    Halfbacks:
                    Christie
                    Perenara
                    Fakatava

                    First Fives:
                    McKenzie
                    Barrett
                    Perofeta

                    Midfielders:
                    Barrett
                    Havili
                    Ioane
                    Lienert-Brown

                    Outside Backs:
                    Tele'a
                    Clarke
                    Reece
                    Narawa

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #215

                    @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

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                      canefan
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                      #216

                      @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @frugby That looks about right, but I think Harry Plummer is perhaps ahead of Perofeta now.

                      Hell, I'd be tempted to put him ahead of BB based on his last form in black

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                      • C chchfanatic

                        Props:
                        de Groot
                        Williams
                        Tu'ungafasi
                        Lomax
                        Newell
                        Bower

                        Hookers:
                        Taylor
                        Aumua
                        Bell if no Taukieho

                        Locks:
                        Barrett CC
                        Tuipulotu
                        Vaa'i

                        Loose Forwards:
                        Papalii
                        Savea CC
                        Blackadder
                        Sititi
                        Finau
                        Cane

                        Halfbacks:
                        Christie
                        Perenara
                        Ratima

                        First Fives:
                        McKenzie
                        Plummer

                        Midfielders:
                        Barrett
                        Havili
                        Ioane
                        Lienert-Brown

                        Outside Backs:
                        Tele'a
                        Clarke
                        Reece
                        Narawa
                        Barrett

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                        sparky
                        wrote on last edited by sparky
                        #217

                        @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                        1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                        2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                        3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                        4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                        5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                        6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Props:
                          de Groot
                          Williams
                          Tu'ungafasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Bower

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          Locks:
                          Barrett CC
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaa'i

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Papalii
                          Savea CC
                          Blackadder
                          Sititi
                          Finau
                          Cane

                          Halfbacks:
                          Christie
                          Perenara
                          Ratima

                          First Fives:
                          McKenzie
                          Plummer

                          Midfielders:
                          Barrett
                          Havili
                          Ioane
                          Lienert-Brown

                          Outside Backs:
                          Tele'a
                          Clarke
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Barrett

                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                          How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                          Fireworks incoming.

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                          #218

                          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Props:
                          de Groot
                          Williams
                          Tu'ungafasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Bower

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          Locks:
                          Barrett CC
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaa'i

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Papalii
                          Savea CC
                          Blackadder
                          Sititi
                          Finau
                          Cane

                          Halfbacks:
                          Christie
                          Perenara
                          Ratima

                          First Fives:
                          McKenzie
                          Plummer

                          Midfielders:
                          Barrett
                          Havili
                          Ioane
                          Lienert-Brown

                          Outside Backs:
                          Tele'a
                          Clarke
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Barrett

                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                          How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                          Fireworks incoming.

                          It'll be eggs cooked over fireworks if an AB team wipe England with names like Strange and Havili.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                            1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                            2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                            3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                            4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                            5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                            6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

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                            Canes4life
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                            #219

                            @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                            1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                            2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                            3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                            4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                            5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                            6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                            Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                              1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                              2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                              3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                              4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                              5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                              6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                              Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                              #220

                              @Canes4life Aumua will be delighted to get an AB recall.

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                              • KirwanK Kirwan

                                If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                                The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

                                Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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                                wrote on last edited by sparky
                                #221

                                @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

                                I'd pick Billy Proctor ahead of AJ Lam, but I'd pick both of them and McLeod ahead of David Havili now.

                                Genuinely baffling selection, if true.

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                                  #222

                                  Unless Super Rugby form means absolutely nothing, I think Sam Darry should be given an All Blacks call. He has flourished in recent weeks under Vern Cotter's direction.

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                                  • TimT Away
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                                    Tim
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                                    #223

                                    Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Did I imagine it, or is Sotutu eligible (after stand-down period) for some other countries? Definitely Fiji, maybe Australia?

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                                      wrote on last edited by gt12
                                      #224

                                      @Tim

                                      England I believe

                                      https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/12020310/will-greenwood-why-wouldnt-england-talk-to-hoskins-sotutu

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                                        1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                                        2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                                        3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                                        4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                                        5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                                        6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                                        Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                                        wrote on last edited by Frank
                                        #225

                                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year.

                                        Different coaches.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @chchfanatic That could well be correct.

                                          1. Only three locks is insane given how often they get injured.

                                          2. No Hoskins Sotutu is insane too given he's arguably been the best Super player of the season and could bugger off and play for England or Fiji.

                                          3. Disappointing not to see Ruben Love there. I think he's our best player under the high ball.

                                          4. Disappointing not to see Billy Proctor there. He's so ready for test rugby.

                                          5. I'm not sure Sam Cane has played any Rugby in 2024. You'd have thought he needs to play at least half a club game before being considered for AB selection.

                                          6. George Bell looks the part but his throwing and his work in the tight are a long way below Test standard.

                                          Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

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                                          ACT Crusader
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                                          #226

                                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Hookers:
                                          Taylor
                                          Aumua
                                          Bell if no Taukieho

                                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Asafo Aumua will be pissed. He showed better form than Bell has over the last couple years and wasn’t considered for that very reason. Now Bell gets in despite being pretty inconsistent all year. Some of these selections are baffling.

                                          Man, the nerves of a first AB squad naming for 2024 is really getting to some.

                                          But I’ll too have my pitchfork ready if Moody, Franks, Bell, Strange, Christie, Grace, Lio-Willie, Havili (oops he’ll make it), Ennor, Jordan don’t make it.

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