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  • F Frank

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

    The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

    Havili can play all three.
    Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
    I don't like it either.
    Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

    The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

    Havili can play all three.
    Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
    I don't like it either.
    Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

    How big is the RC squad?

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

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      Kirwan
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      #192

      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

      Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

        The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

        Havili can play all three.
        Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
        I don't like it either.
        Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

        How big is the RC squad?

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        #193

        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

        The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

        Havili can play all three.
        Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
        I don't like it either.
        Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

        How big is the RC squad?

        36 I've heard

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

          The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

          Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

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          #194

          @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

          The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

          Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

          Lol has Strange ever shown form?

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            I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
            Both are young and have high potential.
            Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
            Hard luck on Numia.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

              The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

              Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

              Lol has Strange ever shown form?

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              #196

              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

              The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

              Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

              Lol has Strange ever shown form?

              He's pretty great at throwing away games by not knowing the laws.

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              • F Frank

                I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                Both are young and have high potential.
                Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                Hard luck on Numia.

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                canefan
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                #197

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                Both are young and have high potential.
                Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                Hard luck on Numia.

                Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                  Both are young and have high potential.
                  Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                  Hard luck on Numia.

                  Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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                  Canes4life
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                  @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                  Both are young and have high potential.
                  Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                  Hard luck on Numia.

                  Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                  I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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                    KiwiMurph
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                    Speaking of young props - Fusitua could be one to keep an eye on in a year or so. Good scrummager. Mobile. AB XV candidate perhaps

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                      I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                      Both are young and have high potential.
                      Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                      Hard luck on Numia.

                      Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                      I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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                      @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                      I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                      Both are young and have high potential.
                      Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                      Hard luck on Numia.

                      Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                      I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                      Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                        Both are young and have high potential.
                        Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                        Hard luck on Numia.

                        Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                        I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                        Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                        Both are young and have high potential.
                        Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                        Hard luck on Numia.

                        Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                        I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                        Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                        100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                          Both are young and have high potential.
                          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                          Hard luck on Numia.

                          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                          Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                          100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                          Both are young and have high potential.
                          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                          Hard luck on Numia.

                          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                          Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                          100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

                          Injuries killed us. But our fozz blacks game plan in the SF was a self inflicted wound that we must learn from

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                            #203

                            The AB team I want to see tomorrow is as follows (excluding injured players). In brackets are players I think will be picked by Razor based on the chat.

                            Props
                            Lomax
                            Newell
                            Tu'ungafasi
                            Williams
                            De Groot

                            Hookers:
                            Taylor
                            Aumua
                            Riccitelli (Bell)

                            Locks:
                            Darry (Vaa'i)
                            Barrett
                            Tuipolotu
                            Walker-Leawere (Strange)

                            Loose forwards:
                            Papali'i
                            Sotutu (Sititi)
                            Lakai (Cane)
                            Savea
                            Finau
                            Blackadder

                            Halfbacks:
                            Perenara
                            Ratima
                            Christie

                            First Fives:
                            McKenzie
                            Plummer

                            Centres:
                            Proctor (Havili)
                            Ioane
                            Barrett
                            ALB

                            Outside backs:
                            Clarke
                            Reece
                            Telea
                            Love (Barrett)
                            Narawa

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                              canefan
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                              I could live with that list, minus the bracketed players!

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                                If Chchfanatic is right and Scott and Ardie are going to be co-captains, I think I like that. Makes some sense to share the load in this day and age.

                                I think another interesting thing where Razor's experience might be in play is that he's not naming his team until Monday night. Gives the winners an opportunity to celebrate (and the losers to decompress) without having to worry about leaping on a plane to Christchurch at 9am on Sunday morning. Temptation would have been to rush everyone into camp. Hope it doesn't backfire!

                                Incidentally, congratulations to the Blues.

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                                • C chchfanatic

                                  Props:
                                  de Groot
                                  Williams
                                  Tu'ungafasi
                                  Lomax
                                  Newell
                                  Bower

                                  Hookers:
                                  Taylor
                                  Aumua
                                  Bell if no Taukieho

                                  Locks:
                                  Barrett CC
                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Vaa'i

                                  Loose Forwards:
                                  Papalii
                                  Savea CC
                                  Blackadder
                                  Sititi
                                  Finau
                                  Cane

                                  Halfbacks:
                                  Christie
                                  Perenara
                                  Ratima

                                  First Fives:
                                  McKenzie
                                  Plummer

                                  Midfielders:
                                  Barrett
                                  Havili
                                  Ioane
                                  Lienert-Brown

                                  Outside Backs:
                                  Tele'a
                                  Clarke
                                  Reece
                                  Narawa
                                  Barrett

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                                  @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  Props:
                                  de Groot
                                  Williams
                                  Tu'ungafasi
                                  Lomax
                                  Newell
                                  Bower

                                  Hookers:
                                  Taylor
                                  Aumua
                                  Bell if no Taukieho

                                  Locks:
                                  Barrett CC
                                  Tuipulotu
                                  Vaa'i

                                  Loose Forwards:
                                  Papalii
                                  Savea CC
                                  Blackadder
                                  Sititi
                                  Finau
                                  Cane

                                  Halfbacks:
                                  Christie
                                  Perenara
                                  Ratima

                                  First Fives:
                                  McKenzie
                                  Plummer

                                  Midfielders:
                                  Barrett
                                  Havili
                                  Ioane
                                  Lienert-Brown

                                  Outside Backs:
                                  Tele'a
                                  Clarke
                                  Reece
                                  Narawa
                                  Barrett

                                  You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                    Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                    The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

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                                    @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                    It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                    Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                    The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                                    Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                                    Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Props:
                                      de Groot
                                      Williams
                                      Tu'ungafasi
                                      Lomax
                                      Newell
                                      Bower

                                      Hookers:
                                      Taylor
                                      Aumua
                                      Bell if no Taukieho

                                      Locks:
                                      Barrett CC
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Vaa'i

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      Papalii
                                      Savea CC
                                      Blackadder
                                      Sititi
                                      Finau
                                      Cane

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      Christie
                                      Perenara
                                      Ratima

                                      First Fives:
                                      McKenzie
                                      Plummer

                                      Midfielders:
                                      Barrett
                                      Havili
                                      Ioane
                                      Lienert-Brown

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      Tele'a
                                      Clarke
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Barrett

                                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                                      @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Props:
                                      de Groot
                                      Williams
                                      Tu'ungafasi
                                      Lomax
                                      Newell
                                      Bower

                                      Hookers:
                                      Taylor
                                      Aumua
                                      Bell if no Taukieho

                                      Locks:
                                      Barrett CC
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Vaa'i

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      Papalii
                                      Savea CC
                                      Blackadder
                                      Sititi
                                      Finau
                                      Cane

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      Christie
                                      Perenara
                                      Ratima

                                      First Fives:
                                      McKenzie
                                      Plummer

                                      Midfielders:
                                      Barrett
                                      Havili
                                      Ioane
                                      Lienert-Brown

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      Tele'a
                                      Clarke
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Barrett

                                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                      Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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                                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                        Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                                        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                                        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                        Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                                        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                                        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

                                        Definitely better in Fozzies last year. The Irish QF was the peak

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                                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                                          If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                                          The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

                                          Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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                                          @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                                          Who was that BTW? Not being a dick, the Final was literally the only Super game I’ve watched this season

                                          Sotutu?

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