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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

    The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

    I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

    The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

    Havili can play all three.
    Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
    I don't like it either.
    Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

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      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

      I don't anyone can mount a credible justification for him. Other than "I'm a fanboi so he's in"

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      • F Frank

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

        The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

        Havili can play all three.
        Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
        I don't like it either.
        Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

        The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

        Havili can play all three.
        Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
        I don't like it either.
        Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

        How big is the RC squad?

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

          The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

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          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

          The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

          Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

            The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

            Havili can play all three.
            Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
            I don't like it either.
            Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

            How big is the RC squad?

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            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

            The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

            Havili can play all three.
            Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
            I don't like it either.
            Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

            How big is the RC squad?

            36 I've heard

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

              The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

              Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

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              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

              The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

              Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

              Lol has Strange ever shown form?

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                I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                Both are young and have high potential.
                Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                Hard luck on Numia.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                  The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                  Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

                  Lol has Strange ever shown form?

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                  @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                  The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                  Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

                  Lol has Strange ever shown form?

                  He's pretty great at throwing away games by not knowing the laws.

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                  • F Frank

                    I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                    Both are young and have high potential.
                    Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                    Hard luck on Numia.

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                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                    Both are young and have high potential.
                    Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                    Hard luck on Numia.

                    Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                      I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                      Both are young and have high potential.
                      Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                      Hard luck on Numia.

                      Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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                      @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                      I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                      Both are young and have high potential.
                      Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                      Hard luck on Numia.

                      Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                      I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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                        Speaking of young props - Fusitua could be one to keep an eye on in a year or so. Good scrummager. Mobile. AB XV candidate perhaps

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                          Both are young and have high potential.
                          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                          Hard luck on Numia.

                          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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                          @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                          Both are young and have high potential.
                          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                          Hard luck on Numia.

                          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                          Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                            Both are young and have high potential.
                            Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                            Hard luck on Numia.

                            Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                            I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                            Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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                            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                            Both are young and have high potential.
                            Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                            Hard luck on Numia.

                            Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                            I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                            Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                            100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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                              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                              I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                              Both are young and have high potential.
                              Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                              Hard luck on Numia.

                              Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                              I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                              Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                              100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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                              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                              I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                              Both are young and have high potential.
                              Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                              Hard luck on Numia.

                              Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                              I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                              Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                              100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

                              Injuries killed us. But our fozz blacks game plan in the SF was a self inflicted wound that we must learn from

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                                The AB team I want to see tomorrow is as follows (excluding injured players). In brackets are players I think will be picked by Razor based on the chat.

                                Props
                                Lomax
                                Newell
                                Tu'ungafasi
                                Williams
                                De Groot

                                Hookers:
                                Taylor
                                Aumua
                                Riccitelli (Bell)

                                Locks:
                                Darry (Vaa'i)
                                Barrett
                                Tuipolotu
                                Walker-Leawere (Strange)

                                Loose forwards:
                                Papali'i
                                Sotutu (Sititi)
                                Lakai (Cane)
                                Savea
                                Finau
                                Blackadder

                                Halfbacks:
                                Perenara
                                Ratima
                                Christie

                                First Fives:
                                McKenzie
                                Plummer

                                Centres:
                                Proctor (Havili)
                                Ioane
                                Barrett
                                ALB

                                Outside backs:
                                Clarke
                                Reece
                                Telea
                                Love (Barrett)
                                Narawa

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                                  I could live with that list, minus the bracketed players!

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                                    If Chchfanatic is right and Scott and Ardie are going to be co-captains, I think I like that. Makes some sense to share the load in this day and age.

                                    I think another interesting thing where Razor's experience might be in play is that he's not naming his team until Monday night. Gives the winners an opportunity to celebrate (and the losers to decompress) without having to worry about leaping on a plane to Christchurch at 9am on Sunday morning. Temptation would have been to rush everyone into camp. Hope it doesn't backfire!

                                    Incidentally, congratulations to the Blues.

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                                      Props:
                                      de Groot
                                      Williams
                                      Tu'ungafasi
                                      Lomax
                                      Newell
                                      Bower

                                      Hookers:
                                      Taylor
                                      Aumua
                                      Bell if no Taukieho

                                      Locks:
                                      Barrett CC
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Vaa'i

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      Papalii
                                      Savea CC
                                      Blackadder
                                      Sititi
                                      Finau
                                      Cane

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      Christie
                                      Perenara
                                      Ratima

                                      First Fives:
                                      McKenzie
                                      Plummer

                                      Midfielders:
                                      Barrett
                                      Havili
                                      Ioane
                                      Lienert-Brown

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      Tele'a
                                      Clarke
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Barrett

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                                      @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Props:
                                      de Groot
                                      Williams
                                      Tu'ungafasi
                                      Lomax
                                      Newell
                                      Bower

                                      Hookers:
                                      Taylor
                                      Aumua
                                      Bell if no Taukieho

                                      Locks:
                                      Barrett CC
                                      Tuipulotu
                                      Vaa'i

                                      Loose Forwards:
                                      Papalii
                                      Savea CC
                                      Blackadder
                                      Sititi
                                      Finau
                                      Cane

                                      Halfbacks:
                                      Christie
                                      Perenara
                                      Ratima

                                      First Fives:
                                      McKenzie
                                      Plummer

                                      Midfielders:
                                      Barrett
                                      Havili
                                      Ioane
                                      Lienert-Brown

                                      Outside Backs:
                                      Tele'a
                                      Clarke
                                      Reece
                                      Narawa
                                      Barrett

                                      You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                        Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

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                                        @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                        Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                        The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                                        Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                                        Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Props:
                                          de Groot
                                          Williams
                                          Tu'ungafasi
                                          Lomax
                                          Newell
                                          Bower

                                          Hookers:
                                          Taylor
                                          Aumua
                                          Bell if no Taukieho

                                          Locks:
                                          Barrett CC
                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Vaa'i

                                          Loose Forwards:
                                          Papalii
                                          Savea CC
                                          Blackadder
                                          Sititi
                                          Finau
                                          Cane

                                          Halfbacks:
                                          Christie
                                          Perenara
                                          Ratima

                                          First Fives:
                                          McKenzie
                                          Plummer

                                          Midfielders:
                                          Barrett
                                          Havili
                                          Ioane
                                          Lienert-Brown

                                          Outside Backs:
                                          Tele'a
                                          Clarke
                                          Reece
                                          Narawa
                                          Barrett

                                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                                          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Props:
                                          de Groot
                                          Williams
                                          Tu'ungafasi
                                          Lomax
                                          Newell
                                          Bower

                                          Hookers:
                                          Taylor
                                          Aumua
                                          Bell if no Taukieho

                                          Locks:
                                          Barrett CC
                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Vaa'i

                                          Loose Forwards:
                                          Papalii
                                          Savea CC
                                          Blackadder
                                          Sititi
                                          Finau
                                          Cane

                                          Halfbacks:
                                          Christie
                                          Perenara
                                          Ratima

                                          First Fives:
                                          McKenzie
                                          Plummer

                                          Midfielders:
                                          Barrett
                                          Havili
                                          Ioane
                                          Lienert-Brown

                                          Outside Backs:
                                          Tele'a
                                          Clarke
                                          Reece
                                          Narawa
                                          Barrett

                                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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