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  • FrankF Offline
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    Frank
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    I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
    Both are young and have high potential.
    Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
    Hard luck on Numia.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

      Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

      Lol has Strange ever shown form?

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      @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

      Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).

      Lol has Strange ever shown form?

      He's pretty great at throwing away games by not knowing the laws.

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      • FrankF Frank

        I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
        Both are young and have high potential.
        Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
        Hard luck on Numia.

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        canefan
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        #197

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
        Both are young and have high potential.
        Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
        Hard luck on Numia.

        Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
          Both are young and have high potential.
          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
          Hard luck on Numia.

          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

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          Canes4life
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          #198

          @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
          Both are young and have high potential.
          Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
          Hard luck on Numia.

          Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

          I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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            KiwiMurph
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            #199

            Speaking of young props - Fusitua could be one to keep an eye on in a year or so. Good scrummager. Mobile. AB XV candidate perhaps

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
              Both are young and have high potential.
              Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
              Hard luck on Numia.

              Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

              I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

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              canefan
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              #200

              @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

              @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
              Both are young and have high potential.
              Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
              Hard luck on Numia.

              Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

              I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

              Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                Both are young and have high potential.
                Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                Hard luck on Numia.

                Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

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                Canes4life
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                @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                Both are young and have high potential.
                Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                Hard luck on Numia.

                Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                  Both are young and have high potential.
                  Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                  Hard luck on Numia.

                  Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                  I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                  Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                  100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

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                  canefan
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                  #202

                  @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
                  Both are young and have high potential.
                  Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
                  Hard luck on Numia.

                  Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge

                  I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.

                  Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs

                  100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.

                  Injuries killed us. But our fozz blacks game plan in the SF was a self inflicted wound that we must learn from

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                    Canes4life
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                    #203

                    The AB team I want to see tomorrow is as follows (excluding injured players). In brackets are players I think will be picked by Razor based on the chat.

                    Props
                    Lomax
                    Newell
                    Tu'ungafasi
                    Williams
                    De Groot

                    Hookers:
                    Taylor
                    Aumua
                    Riccitelli (Bell)

                    Locks:
                    Darry (Vaa'i)
                    Barrett
                    Tuipolotu
                    Walker-Leawere (Strange)

                    Loose forwards:
                    Papali'i
                    Sotutu (Sititi)
                    Lakai (Cane)
                    Savea
                    Finau
                    Blackadder

                    Halfbacks:
                    Perenara
                    Ratima
                    Christie

                    First Fives:
                    McKenzie
                    Plummer

                    Centres:
                    Proctor (Havili)
                    Ioane
                    Barrett
                    ALB

                    Outside backs:
                    Clarke
                    Reece
                    Telea
                    Love (Barrett)
                    Narawa

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                      canefan
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                      #204

                      I could live with that list, minus the bracketed players!

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                      • Chris B.C Online
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                        Chris B.
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                        #205

                        If Chchfanatic is right and Scott and Ardie are going to be co-captains, I think I like that. Makes some sense to share the load in this day and age.

                        I think another interesting thing where Razor's experience might be in play is that he's not naming his team until Monday night. Gives the winners an opportunity to celebrate (and the losers to decompress) without having to worry about leaping on a plane to Christchurch at 9am on Sunday morning. Temptation would have been to rush everyone into camp. Hope it doesn't backfire!

                        Incidentally, congratulations to the Blues.

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                        • C chchfanatic

                          Props:
                          de Groot
                          Williams
                          Tu'ungafasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Bower

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          Locks:
                          Barrett CC
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaa'i

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Papalii
                          Savea CC
                          Blackadder
                          Sititi
                          Finau
                          Cane

                          Halfbacks:
                          Christie
                          Perenara
                          Ratima

                          First Fives:
                          McKenzie
                          Plummer

                          Midfielders:
                          Barrett
                          Havili
                          Ioane
                          Lienert-Brown

                          Outside Backs:
                          Tele'a
                          Clarke
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Barrett

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                          Landers92
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                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                          Props:
                          de Groot
                          Williams
                          Tu'ungafasi
                          Lomax
                          Newell
                          Bower

                          Hookers:
                          Taylor
                          Aumua
                          Bell if no Taukieho

                          Locks:
                          Barrett CC
                          Tuipulotu
                          Vaa'i

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Papalii
                          Savea CC
                          Blackadder
                          Sititi
                          Finau
                          Cane

                          Halfbacks:
                          Christie
                          Perenara
                          Ratima

                          First Fives:
                          McKenzie
                          Plummer

                          Midfielders:
                          Barrett
                          Havili
                          Ioane
                          Lienert-Brown

                          Outside Backs:
                          Tele'a
                          Clarke
                          Reece
                          Narawa
                          Barrett

                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                            It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                            Very average based on a few of those selections.

                            The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

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                            @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                            It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                            Very average based on a few of those selections.

                            The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                            Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                            Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                            • Landers92L Landers92

                              @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                              Props:
                              de Groot
                              Williams
                              Tu'ungafasi
                              Lomax
                              Newell
                              Bower

                              Hookers:
                              Taylor
                              Aumua
                              Bell if no Taukieho

                              Locks:
                              Barrett CC
                              Tuipulotu
                              Vaa'i

                              Loose Forwards:
                              Papalii
                              Savea CC
                              Blackadder
                              Sititi
                              Finau
                              Cane

                              Halfbacks:
                              Christie
                              Perenara
                              Ratima

                              First Fives:
                              McKenzie
                              Plummer

                              Midfielders:
                              Barrett
                              Havili
                              Ioane
                              Lienert-Brown

                              Outside Backs:
                              Tele'a
                              Clarke
                              Reece
                              Narawa
                              Barrett

                              You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

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                              #208

                              @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                              Props:
                              de Groot
                              Williams
                              Tu'ungafasi
                              Lomax
                              Newell
                              Bower

                              Hookers:
                              Taylor
                              Aumua
                              Bell if no Taukieho

                              Locks:
                              Barrett CC
                              Tuipulotu
                              Vaa'i

                              Loose Forwards:
                              Papalii
                              Savea CC
                              Blackadder
                              Sititi
                              Finau
                              Cane

                              Halfbacks:
                              Christie
                              Perenara
                              Ratima

                              First Fives:
                              McKenzie
                              Plummer

                              Midfielders:
                              Barrett
                              Havili
                              Ioane
                              Lienert-Brown

                              Outside Backs:
                              Tele'a
                              Clarke
                              Reece
                              Narawa
                              Barrett

                              You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                              Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                                Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                                Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

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                                canefan
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                                #209

                                @ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @canefan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.

                                Very average based on a few of those selections.

                                The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long

                                Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.

                                Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.

                                Definitely better in Fozzies last year. The Irish QF was the peak

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                                  The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.

                                  Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?

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                                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.

                                  Who was that BTW? Not being a dick, the Final was literally the only Super game I’ve watched this season

                                  Sotutu?

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                                    Yes, Sotutu.

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                                    • FrankF Frank

                                      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.

                                      The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.

                                      Havili can play all three.
                                      Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
                                      I don't like it either.
                                      Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.

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                                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      Havili can play all three.

                                      People keep saying this, but he can't. And if he can, it's to a much lower level than Jordie can.

                                      But Havili was deemed such a failure at ten for the crusaders, that a loudly proclaimed "he will play there until the end of the season" was u-turned sharply after two games.

                                      And then in a season where Jordan is injured, Havili didn't play fullback. He hasn't played there in years.

                                      The only thing I can think of, is he's played his best rugby under Razor and he believes he's got the key to unlocking that at test level.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Props:
                                        de Groot
                                        Williams
                                        Tu'ungafasi
                                        Lomax
                                        Newell
                                        Bower

                                        Hookers:
                                        Taylor
                                        Aumua
                                        Bell if no Taukieho

                                        Locks:
                                        Barrett CC
                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Vaa'i

                                        Loose Forwards:
                                        Papalii
                                        Savea CC
                                        Blackadder
                                        Sititi
                                        Finau
                                        Cane

                                        Halfbacks:
                                        Christie
                                        Perenara
                                        Ratima

                                        First Fives:
                                        McKenzie
                                        Plummer

                                        Midfielders:
                                        Barrett
                                        Havili
                                        Ioane
                                        Lienert-Brown

                                        Outside Backs:
                                        Tele'a
                                        Clarke
                                        Reece
                                        Narawa
                                        Barrett

                                        You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                        Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        #213

                                        @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                        Props:
                                        de Groot
                                        Williams
                                        Tu'ungafasi
                                        Lomax
                                        Newell
                                        Bower

                                        Hookers:
                                        Taylor
                                        Aumua
                                        Bell if no Taukieho

                                        Locks:
                                        Barrett CC
                                        Tuipulotu
                                        Vaa'i

                                        Loose Forwards:
                                        Papalii
                                        Savea CC
                                        Blackadder
                                        Sititi
                                        Finau
                                        Cane

                                        Halfbacks:
                                        Christie
                                        Perenara
                                        Ratima

                                        First Fives:
                                        McKenzie
                                        Plummer

                                        Midfielders:
                                        Barrett
                                        Havili
                                        Ioane
                                        Lienert-Brown

                                        Outside Backs:
                                        Tele'a
                                        Clarke
                                        Reece
                                        Narawa
                                        Barrett

                                        You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                        Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                                        How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                                        Fireworks incoming.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Props:
                                          de Groot
                                          Williams
                                          Tu'ungafasi
                                          Lomax
                                          Newell
                                          Bower

                                          Hookers:
                                          Taylor
                                          Aumua
                                          Bell if no Taukieho

                                          Locks:
                                          Barrett CC
                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Vaa'i

                                          Loose Forwards:
                                          Papalii
                                          Savea CC
                                          Blackadder
                                          Sititi
                                          Finau
                                          Cane

                                          Halfbacks:
                                          Christie
                                          Perenara
                                          Ratima

                                          First Fives:
                                          McKenzie
                                          Plummer

                                          Midfielders:
                                          Barrett
                                          Havili
                                          Ioane
                                          Lienert-Brown

                                          Outside Backs:
                                          Tele'a
                                          Clarke
                                          Reece
                                          Narawa
                                          Barrett

                                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                                          How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                                          Fireworks incoming.

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                                          #214

                                          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @Chris said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          Props:
                                          de Groot
                                          Williams
                                          Tu'ungafasi
                                          Lomax
                                          Newell
                                          Bower

                                          Hookers:
                                          Taylor
                                          Aumua
                                          Bell if no Taukieho

                                          Locks:
                                          Barrett CC
                                          Tuipulotu
                                          Vaa'i

                                          Loose Forwards:
                                          Papalii
                                          Savea CC
                                          Blackadder
                                          Sititi
                                          Finau
                                          Cane

                                          Halfbacks:
                                          Christie
                                          Perenara
                                          Ratima

                                          First Fives:
                                          McKenzie
                                          Plummer

                                          Midfielders:
                                          Barrett
                                          Havili
                                          Ioane
                                          Lienert-Brown

                                          Outside Backs:
                                          Tele'a
                                          Clarke
                                          Reece
                                          Narawa
                                          Barrett

                                          You had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.

                                          Yeah I have my popcorn ready.

                                          How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.

                                          Fireworks incoming.

                                          Even better

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