Name Your AB Team
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@KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:
I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.
The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.
Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).
@Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:
@KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:
I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.
The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.
Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).
Lol has Strange ever shown form?
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@Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:
@KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:
I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.
The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.
Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).
Lol has Strange ever shown form?
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:
@KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:
I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.
The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.
Same if they pick Bell or Strange, better options in better form, and better young prospects in form. You need to earn the AB jersey by playing well, not just be selected on potential (or the franchise you belong to).
Lol has Strange ever shown form?
He's pretty great at throwing away games by not knowing the laws.
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I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
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@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
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@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs
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@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs
100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.
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@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs
100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
I would be quite happy with Newell and Williams being picked.
Both are young and have high potential.
Newell is a very powerful scrummager and Williams is devastating close to the line.
Hard luck on Numia.Numia is hurt, and he's young. Has time on his side. But his upside looks huge
I feel Numia will get a shot this year, most likely end of year tour or if injuries strike. Absolutely gutted for him when he got injured. He was a beast around the park this year and was never beaten at scrum time.
Our scrum was immense. Left a lot of opposition packs broken. That is not something you often say about Hurricanes packs
100%. Let's hope we get that pack humming at the right end of the season next year. Getting Gallagher is huge aswell, will add to the engine room.
Injuries killed us. But our fozz blacks game plan in the SF was a self inflicted wound that we must learn from
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The AB team I want to see tomorrow is as follows (excluding injured players). In brackets are players I think will be picked by Razor based on the chat.
Props
Lomax
Newell
Tu'ungafasi
Williams
De GrootHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Riccitelli (Bell)Locks:
Darry (Vaa'i)
Barrett
Tuipolotu
Walker-Leawere (Strange)Loose forwards:
Papali'i
Sotutu (Sititi)
Lakai (Cane)
Savea
Finau
BlackadderHalfbacks:
Perenara
Ratima
ChristieFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerCentres:
Proctor (Havili)
Ioane
Barrett
ALBOutside backs:
Clarke
Reece
Telea
Love (Barrett)
Narawa -
If Chchfanatic is right and Scott and Ardie are going to be co-captains, I think I like that. Makes some sense to share the load in this day and age.
I think another interesting thing where Razor's experience might be in play is that he's not naming his team until Monday night. Gives the winners an opportunity to celebrate (and the losers to decompress) without having to worry about leaping on a plane to Christchurch at 9am on Sunday morning. Temptation would have been to rush everyone into camp. Hope it doesn't backfire!
Incidentally, congratulations to the Blues.
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Props:
de Groot
Williams
Tu'ungafasi
Lomax
Newell
BowerHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Bell if no TaukiehoLocks:
Barrett CC
Tuipulotu
Vaa'iLoose Forwards:
Papalii
Savea CC
Blackadder
Sititi
Finau
CaneHalfbacks:
Christie
Perenara
RatimaFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerMidfielders:
Barrett
Havili
Ioane
Lienert-BrownOutside Backs:
Tele'a
Clarke
Reece
Narawa
Barrett@chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Tu'ungafasi
Lomax
Newell
BowerHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Bell if no TaukiehoLocks:
Barrett CC
Tuipulotu
Vaa'iLoose Forwards:
Papalii
Savea CC
Blackadder
Sititi
Finau
CaneHalfbacks:
Christie
Perenara
RatimaFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerMidfielders:
Barrett
Havili
Ioane
Lienert-BrownOutside Backs:
Tele'a
Clarke
Reece
Narawa
BarrettYou had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.
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@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@Chris said in Name Your AB Team:
It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.
Very average based on a few of those selections.
The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@Chris said in Name Your AB Team:
It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.
Very average based on a few of those selections.
The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long
Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.
Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.
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@chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Tu'ungafasi
Lomax
Newell
BowerHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Bell if no TaukiehoLocks:
Barrett CC
Tuipulotu
Vaa'iLoose Forwards:
Papalii
Savea CC
Blackadder
Sititi
Finau
CaneHalfbacks:
Christie
Perenara
RatimaFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerMidfielders:
Barrett
Havili
Ioane
Lienert-BrownOutside Backs:
Tele'a
Clarke
Reece
Narawa
BarrettYou had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.
@Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:
@chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Tu'ungafasi
Lomax
Newell
BowerHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Bell if no TaukiehoLocks:
Barrett CC
Tuipulotu
Vaa'iLoose Forwards:
Papalii
Savea CC
Blackadder
Sititi
Finau
CaneHalfbacks:
Christie
Perenara
RatimaFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerMidfielders:
Barrett
Havili
Ioane
Lienert-BrownOutside Backs:
Tele'a
Clarke
Reece
Narawa
BarrettYou had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.
Yeah I have my popcorn ready.
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@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@Chris said in Name Your AB Team:
It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.
Very average based on a few of those selections.
The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long
Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.
Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.
@ACT-Crusader said in Name Your AB Team:
@canefan said in Name Your AB Team:
@Canes4life said in Name Your AB Team:
@Chris said in Name Your AB Team:
It will be interesting to see how the ABs are going to play.
Very average based on a few of those selections.
The Blues showed the kind of game plan that will work vs teams like England and the Boks. We've been too loose for too long
Not to bring up old ground as we all look to the future and all that stuff, but in the tests before and during the World Cup I thought we got the balance right.
Other than a couple of kicks we basically had the tight game that matched and even for good periods surpass the Boks.
Definitely better in Fozzies last year. The Irish QF was the peak
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If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.
The bane of the Foster era was conservative selections when players put their hands up. No point having the most talented players in the world if you don't pick them.
Lam has done enough to get ahead of the epitome of mid Havilli for example. How many times does a player have to fail to impress at Test level before you move on?
@Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:
If Razor doesn't pick the best looseforward in the country this Super season, then I have very low expectations from the ABs this year.
Who was that BTW? Not being a dick, the Final was literally the only Super game I’ve watched this season
Sotutu?
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@KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:
I will be very interested in Razor's comments about the squad - hopefully he hints at players on the radar that will get a look in later in the year.
The one that I would have the most issues with is Havili. If you pick him as a 10 there are better options if you pick him as a 12 there are better options if you pick him as a 15 there are better options if you pick him as a utility there are better options.
Havili can play all three.
Perhaps they want him on the bench to free up space for other places.
I don't like it either.
Hopefully he is just an experienced placeholder for the 1st two tests and they cast their net wider once the Rugby Championship gets started.@Frank said in Name Your AB Team:
Havili can play all three.
People keep saying this, but he can't. And if he can, it's to a much lower level than Jordie can.
But Havili was deemed such a failure at ten for the crusaders, that a loudly proclaimed "he will play there until the end of the season" was u-turned sharply after two games.
And then in a season where Jordan is injured, Havili didn't play fullback. He hasn't played there in years.
The only thing I can think of, is he's played his best rugby under Razor and he believes he's got the key to unlocking that at test level.
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@Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:
@chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Tu'ungafasi
Lomax
Newell
BowerHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Bell if no TaukiehoLocks:
Barrett CC
Tuipulotu
Vaa'iLoose Forwards:
Papalii
Savea CC
Blackadder
Sititi
Finau
CaneHalfbacks:
Christie
Perenara
RatimaFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerMidfielders:
Barrett
Havili
Ioane
Lienert-BrownOutside Backs:
Tele'a
Clarke
Reece
Narawa
BarrettYou had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.
Yeah I have my popcorn ready.
@Chris said in Name Your AB Team:
@Landers92 said in Name Your AB Team:
@chchfanatic said in Name Your AB Team:
Props:
de Groot
Williams
Tu'ungafasi
Lomax
Newell
BowerHookers:
Taylor
Aumua
Bell if no TaukiehoLocks:
Barrett CC
Tuipulotu
Vaa'iLoose Forwards:
Papalii
Savea CC
Blackadder
Sititi
Finau
CaneHalfbacks:
Christie
Perenara
RatimaFirst Fives:
McKenzie
PlummerMidfielders:
Barrett
Havili
Ioane
Lienert-BrownOutside Backs:
Tele'a
Clarke
Reece
Narawa
BarrettYou had an inside word on the squad naming too? If this is anything to go by, this place is going to be some bloody good entertainment around 5.35pm tomorrow evening.
Yeah I have my popcorn ready.
How about the popcorn if Razor's mediocre bunch blow Eden Park's undefeated streak vs England in a few weeks.
Fireworks incoming.
