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All Blacks 2024

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  • B brodean

    Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

    Carries Per 80 Minutes
    19.39 Sititi
    16.79 Savea
    10.85 Finau
    8.09 Cane
    7.87 Blackadder
    4.67 Papali'i
    2.63 Jacobson

    Tackers Per 80 Minutes
    16.17 Cane
    15.74 Blackadder
    14.55 Sititi
    14.24 Finau
    13.68 Jacobson
    12.85 Papali'i
    11.04 Savea

    Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
    4.85 Sititi
    4.74 Jacobson
    2.42 Savea
    2.10 Blackadder
    1.36 Finau
    0.43 Cane
    0 Papali'i

    Turnovers won per 80 minutes
    1.62 Sititi
    0.88 Papali'i
    0.6 Savea
    0.52 Blackadder
    0.43 Cane
    0 Finau, Jacobson

    Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
    tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
    11.31 Sititi
    6.8 Savea
    4.75 Finau
    3.15 Blackadder
    2.05 Papali'i
    1.7 Cane
    1.06 Jacobson

    Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
    turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
    4.98 Blackadder
    4.85 Sititi
    4.75 Finau
    3.83 Cane
    2.34 Papali'i
    2.27 Savea
    2.11 Jacobson

    Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
    6.46 Sititi
    4.53 Savea
    0 Finau
    -0.29 Papali'i
    -1.05 Jacobson
    -1.83 Blackadder
    -2.13 Cane

    Based on those stats my loose trio:

    6 Finau
    7 Savea
    8 Sititi
    21 Papali'i

    * Without consideration of rucks attended

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    canefan
    wrote on last edited by
    #6024

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

    Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

    Carries Per 80 Minutes
    19.39 Sititi
    16.79 Savea
    10.85 Finau
    8.09 Cane
    7.87 Blackadder
    4.67 Papali'i
    2.63 Jacobson

    Tackers Per 80 Minutes
    16.17 Cane
    15.74 Blackadder
    14.55 Sititi
    14.24 Finau
    13.68 Jacobson
    12.85 Papali'i
    11.04 Savea

    Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
    4.85 Sititi
    4.74 Jacobson
    2.42 Savea
    2.10 Blackadder
    1.36 Finau
    0.43 Cane
    0 Papali'i

    Turnovers won per 80 minutes
    1.62 Sititi
    0.88 Papali'i
    0.6 Savea
    0.52 Blackadder
    0.43 Cane
    0 Finau, Jacobson

    Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
    tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
    11.31 Sititi
    6.8 Savea
    4.75 Finau
    3.15 Blackadder
    2.05 Papali'i
    1.7 Cane
    1.06 Jacobson

    Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
    turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
    4.98 Blackadder
    4.85 Sititi
    4.75 Finau
    3.83 Cane
    2.34 Papali'i
    2.27 Savea
    2.11 Jacobson

    Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
    6.46 Sititi
    4.53 Savea
    0 Finau
    -0.29 Papali'i
    -1.05 Jacobson
    -1.83 Blackadder
    -2.13 Cane

    Based on the stats my loose trio:

    6 Finau
    7 Savea
    8 Sititi
    21 Papali'i

    * Without consideration of rucks attended

    Thats a lot of information. Wallace is doing okay on those metrics

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    • B brodean

      Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

      Carries Per 80 Minutes
      19.39 Sititi
      16.79 Savea
      10.85 Finau
      8.09 Cane
      7.87 Blackadder
      4.67 Papali'i
      2.63 Jacobson

      Tackers Per 80 Minutes
      16.17 Cane
      15.74 Blackadder
      14.55 Sititi
      14.24 Finau
      13.68 Jacobson
      12.85 Papali'i
      11.04 Savea

      Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
      4.85 Sititi
      4.74 Jacobson
      2.42 Savea
      2.10 Blackadder
      1.36 Finau
      0.43 Cane
      0 Papali'i

      Turnovers won per 80 minutes
      1.62 Sititi
      0.88 Papali'i
      0.6 Savea
      0.52 Blackadder
      0.43 Cane
      0 Finau, Jacobson

      Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
      tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
      11.31 Sititi
      6.8 Savea
      4.75 Finau
      3.15 Blackadder
      2.05 Papali'i
      1.7 Cane
      1.06 Jacobson

      Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
      turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
      4.98 Blackadder
      4.85 Sititi
      4.75 Finau
      3.83 Cane
      2.34 Papali'i
      2.27 Savea
      2.11 Jacobson

      Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
      6.46 Sititi
      4.53 Savea
      0 Finau
      -0.29 Papali'i
      -1.05 Jacobson
      -1.83 Blackadder
      -2.13 Cane

      Based on those stats my loose trio:

      6 Finau
      7 Savea
      8 Sititi
      21 Papali'i

      * Without consideration of rucks attended

      ChrisC Offline
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      Chris
      wrote on last edited by
      #6025

      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

      Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

      Carries Per 80 Minutes
      19.39 Sititi
      16.79 Savea
      10.85 Finau
      8.09 Cane
      7.87 Blackadder
      4.67 Papali'i
      2.63 Jacobson

      Tackers Per 80 Minutes
      16.17 Cane
      15.74 Blackadder
      14.55 Sititi
      14.24 Finau
      13.68 Jacobson
      12.85 Papali'i
      11.04 Savea

      Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
      4.85 Sititi
      4.74 Jacobson
      2.42 Savea
      2.10 Blackadder
      1.36 Finau
      0.43 Cane
      0 Papali'i

      Turnovers won per 80 minutes
      1.62 Sititi
      0.88 Papali'i
      0.6 Savea
      0.52 Blackadder
      0.43 Cane
      0 Finau, Jacobson

      Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
      tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
      11.31 Sititi
      6.8 Savea
      4.75 Finau
      3.15 Blackadder
      2.05 Papali'i
      1.7 Cane
      1.06 Jacobson

      Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
      turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
      4.98 Blackadder
      4.85 Sititi
      4.75 Finau
      3.83 Cane
      2.34 Papali'i
      2.27 Savea
      2.11 Jacobson

      Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
      6.46 Sititi
      4.53 Savea
      0 Finau
      -0.29 Papali'i
      -1.05 Jacobson
      -1.83 Blackadder
      -2.13 Papali'i

      Based on the stats my loose trio:

      6 Finau
      7 Savea
      8 Sititi
      21 Papali'i

      * Without consideration of rucks attended

      Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

        Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

        Carries Per 80 Minutes
        19.39 Sititi
        16.79 Savea
        10.85 Finau
        8.09 Cane
        7.87 Blackadder
        4.67 Papali'i
        2.63 Jacobson

        Tackers Per 80 Minutes
        16.17 Cane
        15.74 Blackadder
        14.55 Sititi
        14.24 Finau
        13.68 Jacobson
        12.85 Papali'i
        11.04 Savea

        Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
        4.85 Sititi
        4.74 Jacobson
        2.42 Savea
        2.10 Blackadder
        1.36 Finau
        0.43 Cane
        0 Papali'i

        Turnovers won per 80 minutes
        1.62 Sititi
        0.88 Papali'i
        0.6 Savea
        0.52 Blackadder
        0.43 Cane
        0 Finau, Jacobson

        Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
        tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
        11.31 Sititi
        6.8 Savea
        4.75 Finau
        3.15 Blackadder
        2.05 Papali'i
        1.7 Cane
        1.06 Jacobson

        Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
        turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
        4.98 Blackadder
        4.85 Sititi
        4.75 Finau
        3.83 Cane
        2.34 Papali'i
        2.27 Savea
        2.11 Jacobson

        Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
        6.46 Sititi
        4.53 Savea
        0 Finau
        -0.29 Papali'i
        -1.05 Jacobson
        -1.83 Blackadder
        -2.13 Papali'i

        Based on the stats my loose trio:

        6 Finau
        7 Savea
        8 Sititi
        21 Papali'i

        * Without consideration of rucks attended

        Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

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        brodean
        wrote on last edited by
        #6026

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

        @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

        Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

        Carries Per 80 Minutes
        19.39 Sititi
        16.79 Savea
        10.85 Finau
        8.09 Cane
        7.87 Blackadder
        4.67 Papali'i
        2.63 Jacobson

        Tackers Per 80 Minutes
        16.17 Cane
        15.74 Blackadder
        14.55 Sititi
        14.24 Finau
        13.68 Jacobson
        12.85 Papali'i
        11.04 Savea

        Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
        4.85 Sititi
        4.74 Jacobson
        2.42 Savea
        2.10 Blackadder
        1.36 Finau
        0.43 Cane
        0 Papali'i

        Turnovers won per 80 minutes
        1.62 Sititi
        0.88 Papali'i
        0.6 Savea
        0.52 Blackadder
        0.43 Cane
        0 Finau, Jacobson

        Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
        tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
        11.31 Sititi
        6.8 Savea
        4.75 Finau
        3.15 Blackadder
        2.05 Papali'i
        1.7 Cane
        1.06 Jacobson

        Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
        turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
        4.98 Blackadder
        4.85 Sititi
        4.75 Finau
        3.83 Cane
        2.34 Papali'i
        2.27 Savea
        2.11 Jacobson

        Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
        6.46 Sititi
        4.53 Savea
        0 Finau
        -0.29 Papali'i
        -1.05 Jacobson
        -1.83 Blackadder
        -2.13 Papali'i

        Based on the stats my loose trio:

        6 Finau
        7 Savea
        8 Sititi
        21 Papali'i

        * Without consideration of rucks attended

        Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

        They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

        They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

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        • B brodean

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

          @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

          Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

          Carries Per 80 Minutes
          19.39 Sititi
          16.79 Savea
          10.85 Finau
          8.09 Cane
          7.87 Blackadder
          4.67 Papali'i
          2.63 Jacobson

          Tackers Per 80 Minutes
          16.17 Cane
          15.74 Blackadder
          14.55 Sititi
          14.24 Finau
          13.68 Jacobson
          12.85 Papali'i
          11.04 Savea

          Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
          4.85 Sititi
          4.74 Jacobson
          2.42 Savea
          2.10 Blackadder
          1.36 Finau
          0.43 Cane
          0 Papali'i

          Turnovers won per 80 minutes
          1.62 Sititi
          0.88 Papali'i
          0.6 Savea
          0.52 Blackadder
          0.43 Cane
          0 Finau, Jacobson

          Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
          tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
          11.31 Sititi
          6.8 Savea
          4.75 Finau
          3.15 Blackadder
          2.05 Papali'i
          1.7 Cane
          1.06 Jacobson

          Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
          turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
          4.98 Blackadder
          4.85 Sititi
          4.75 Finau
          3.83 Cane
          2.34 Papali'i
          2.27 Savea
          2.11 Jacobson

          Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
          6.46 Sititi
          4.53 Savea
          0 Finau
          -0.29 Papali'i
          -1.05 Jacobson
          -1.83 Blackadder
          -2.13 Papali'i

          Based on the stats my loose trio:

          6 Finau
          7 Savea
          8 Sititi
          21 Papali'i

          * Without consideration of rucks attended

          Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

          They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

          They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

          ChrisC Offline
          ChrisC Offline
          Chris
          wrote on last edited by Chris
          #6027

          @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

          @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

          Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

          Carries Per 80 Minutes
          19.39 Sititi
          16.79 Savea
          10.85 Finau
          8.09 Cane
          7.87 Blackadder
          4.67 Papali'i
          2.63 Jacobson

          Tackers Per 80 Minutes
          16.17 Cane
          15.74 Blackadder
          14.55 Sititi
          14.24 Finau
          13.68 Jacobson
          12.85 Papali'i
          11.04 Savea

          Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
          4.85 Sititi
          4.74 Jacobson
          2.42 Savea
          2.10 Blackadder
          1.36 Finau
          0.43 Cane
          0 Papali'i

          Turnovers won per 80 minutes
          1.62 Sititi
          0.88 Papali'i
          0.6 Savea
          0.52 Blackadder
          0.43 Cane
          0 Finau, Jacobson

          Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
          tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
          11.31 Sititi
          6.8 Savea
          4.75 Finau
          3.15 Blackadder
          2.05 Papali'i
          1.7 Cane
          1.06 Jacobson

          Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
          turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
          4.98 Blackadder
          4.85 Sititi
          4.75 Finau
          3.83 Cane
          2.34 Papali'i
          2.27 Savea
          2.11 Jacobson

          Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
          6.46 Sititi
          4.53 Savea
          0 Finau
          -0.29 Papali'i
          -1.05 Jacobson
          -1.83 Blackadder
          -2.13 Papali'i

          Based on the stats my loose trio:

          6 Finau
          7 Savea
          8 Sititi
          21 Papali'i

          * Without consideration of rucks attended

          Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

          They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

          They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

          But they fit yours aye.
          Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.
          Stats are not the be all and end all of what goes on the field its a interpretation of what some one sees.
          In my job stats do not always tell you a story for selection it is down to circumstances of the game quality of possession, amount of possession how others have performed around you to impact a game.
          It is not the bible.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

            @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

            Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

            Carries Per 80 Minutes
            19.39 Sititi
            16.79 Savea
            10.85 Finau
            8.09 Cane
            7.87 Blackadder
            4.67 Papali'i
            2.63 Jacobson

            Tackers Per 80 Minutes
            16.17 Cane
            15.74 Blackadder
            14.55 Sititi
            14.24 Finau
            13.68 Jacobson
            12.85 Papali'i
            11.04 Savea

            Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
            4.85 Sititi
            4.74 Jacobson
            2.42 Savea
            2.10 Blackadder
            1.36 Finau
            0.43 Cane
            0 Papali'i

            Turnovers won per 80 minutes
            1.62 Sititi
            0.88 Papali'i
            0.6 Savea
            0.52 Blackadder
            0.43 Cane
            0 Finau, Jacobson

            Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
            tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
            11.31 Sititi
            6.8 Savea
            4.75 Finau
            3.15 Blackadder
            2.05 Papali'i
            1.7 Cane
            1.06 Jacobson

            Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
            turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
            4.98 Blackadder
            4.85 Sititi
            4.75 Finau
            3.83 Cane
            2.34 Papali'i
            2.27 Savea
            2.11 Jacobson

            Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
            6.46 Sititi
            4.53 Savea
            0 Finau
            -0.29 Papali'i
            -1.05 Jacobson
            -1.83 Blackadder
            -2.13 Papali'i

            Based on the stats my loose trio:

            6 Finau
            7 Savea
            8 Sititi
            21 Papali'i

            * Without consideration of rucks attended

            Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

            They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

            They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

            But they fit yours aye.
            Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.
            Stats are not the be all and end all of what goes on the field its a interpretation of what some one sees.
            In my job stats do not always tell you a story for selection it is down to circumstances of the game quality of possession, amount of possession how others have performed around you to impact a game.
            It is not the bible.

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            B Offline
            brodean
            wrote on last edited by
            #6028

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

            @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

            @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

            Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

            Carries Per 80 Minutes
            19.39 Sititi
            16.79 Savea
            10.85 Finau
            8.09 Cane
            7.87 Blackadder
            4.67 Papali'i
            2.63 Jacobson

            Tackers Per 80 Minutes
            16.17 Cane
            15.74 Blackadder
            14.55 Sititi
            14.24 Finau
            13.68 Jacobson
            12.85 Papali'i
            11.04 Savea

            Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
            4.85 Sititi
            4.74 Jacobson
            2.42 Savea
            2.10 Blackadder
            1.36 Finau
            0.43 Cane
            0 Papali'i

            Turnovers won per 80 minutes
            1.62 Sititi
            0.88 Papali'i
            0.6 Savea
            0.52 Blackadder
            0.43 Cane
            0 Finau, Jacobson

            Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
            tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
            11.31 Sititi
            6.8 Savea
            4.75 Finau
            3.15 Blackadder
            2.05 Papali'i
            1.7 Cane
            1.06 Jacobson

            Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
            turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
            4.98 Blackadder
            4.85 Sititi
            4.75 Finau
            3.83 Cane
            2.34 Papali'i
            2.27 Savea
            2.11 Jacobson

            Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
            6.46 Sititi
            4.53 Savea
            0 Finau
            -0.29 Papali'i
            -1.05 Jacobson
            -1.83 Blackadder
            -2.13 Papali'i

            Based on the stats my loose trio:

            6 Finau
            7 Savea
            8 Sititi
            21 Papali'i

            * Without consideration of rucks attended

            Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

            They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

            They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

            But they fit yours aye.
            Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

            This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

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              brodean
              wrote on last edited by brodean
              #6029

              My narrative would have Papali'i performing better but it's simply not the case. I think he's gone backwards under Robertson with his general play. His defensive workrate isn't as high but I do think he's been the best loose forward this year at the breakdown.

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              • B brodean

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                Carries Per 80 Minutes
                19.39 Sititi
                16.79 Savea
                10.85 Finau
                8.09 Cane
                7.87 Blackadder
                4.67 Papali'i
                2.63 Jacobson

                Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                16.17 Cane
                15.74 Blackadder
                14.55 Sititi
                14.24 Finau
                13.68 Jacobson
                12.85 Papali'i
                11.04 Savea

                Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                4.85 Sititi
                4.74 Jacobson
                2.42 Savea
                2.10 Blackadder
                1.36 Finau
                0.43 Cane
                0 Papali'i

                Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                1.62 Sititi
                0.88 Papali'i
                0.6 Savea
                0.52 Blackadder
                0.43 Cane
                0 Finau, Jacobson

                Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                11.31 Sititi
                6.8 Savea
                4.75 Finau
                3.15 Blackadder
                2.05 Papali'i
                1.7 Cane
                1.06 Jacobson

                Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                4.98 Blackadder
                4.85 Sititi
                4.75 Finau
                3.83 Cane
                2.34 Papali'i
                2.27 Savea
                2.11 Jacobson

                Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                6.46 Sititi
                4.53 Savea
                0 Finau
                -0.29 Papali'i
                -1.05 Jacobson
                -1.83 Blackadder
                -2.13 Papali'i

                Based on the stats my loose trio:

                6 Finau
                7 Savea
                8 Sititi
                21 Papali'i

                * Without consideration of rucks attended

                Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                But they fit yours aye.
                Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

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                @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                Carries Per 80 Minutes
                19.39 Sititi
                16.79 Savea
                10.85 Finau
                8.09 Cane
                7.87 Blackadder
                4.67 Papali'i
                2.63 Jacobson

                Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                16.17 Cane
                15.74 Blackadder
                14.55 Sititi
                14.24 Finau
                13.68 Jacobson
                12.85 Papali'i
                11.04 Savea

                Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                4.85 Sititi
                4.74 Jacobson
                2.42 Savea
                2.10 Blackadder
                1.36 Finau
                0.43 Cane
                0 Papali'i

                Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                1.62 Sititi
                0.88 Papali'i
                0.6 Savea
                0.52 Blackadder
                0.43 Cane
                0 Finau, Jacobson

                Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                11.31 Sititi
                6.8 Savea
                4.75 Finau
                3.15 Blackadder
                2.05 Papali'i
                1.7 Cane
                1.06 Jacobson

                Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                4.98 Blackadder
                4.85 Sititi
                4.75 Finau
                3.83 Cane
                2.34 Papali'i
                2.27 Savea
                2.11 Jacobson

                Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                6.46 Sititi
                4.53 Savea
                0 Finau
                -0.29 Papali'i
                -1.05 Jacobson
                -1.83 Blackadder
                -2.13 Papali'i

                Based on the stats my loose trio:

                6 Finau
                7 Savea
                8 Sititi
                21 Papali'i

                * Without consideration of rucks attended

                Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                But they fit yours aye.
                Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                That's BS

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                  Carries Per 80 Minutes
                  19.39 Sititi
                  16.79 Savea
                  10.85 Finau
                  8.09 Cane
                  7.87 Blackadder
                  4.67 Papali'i
                  2.63 Jacobson

                  Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                  16.17 Cane
                  15.74 Blackadder
                  14.55 Sititi
                  14.24 Finau
                  13.68 Jacobson
                  12.85 Papali'i
                  11.04 Savea

                  Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                  4.85 Sititi
                  4.74 Jacobson
                  2.42 Savea
                  2.10 Blackadder
                  1.36 Finau
                  0.43 Cane
                  0 Papali'i

                  Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                  1.62 Sititi
                  0.88 Papali'i
                  0.6 Savea
                  0.52 Blackadder
                  0.43 Cane
                  0 Finau, Jacobson

                  Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                  tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                  11.31 Sititi
                  6.8 Savea
                  4.75 Finau
                  3.15 Blackadder
                  2.05 Papali'i
                  1.7 Cane
                  1.06 Jacobson

                  Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                  turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                  4.98 Blackadder
                  4.85 Sititi
                  4.75 Finau
                  3.83 Cane
                  2.34 Papali'i
                  2.27 Savea
                  2.11 Jacobson

                  Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                  6.46 Sititi
                  4.53 Savea
                  0 Finau
                  -0.29 Papali'i
                  -1.05 Jacobson
                  -1.83 Blackadder
                  -2.13 Papali'i

                  Based on the stats my loose trio:

                  6 Finau
                  7 Savea
                  8 Sititi
                  21 Papali'i

                  * Without consideration of rucks attended

                  Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                  They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                  They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                  But they fit yours aye.
                  Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                  This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                  That's BS

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                  brodean
                  wrote on last edited by brodean
                  #6031

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                  Carries Per 80 Minutes
                  19.39 Sititi
                  16.79 Savea
                  10.85 Finau
                  8.09 Cane
                  7.87 Blackadder
                  4.67 Papali'i
                  2.63 Jacobson

                  Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                  16.17 Cane
                  15.74 Blackadder
                  14.55 Sititi
                  14.24 Finau
                  13.68 Jacobson
                  12.85 Papali'i
                  11.04 Savea

                  Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                  4.85 Sititi
                  4.74 Jacobson
                  2.42 Savea
                  2.10 Blackadder
                  1.36 Finau
                  0.43 Cane
                  0 Papali'i

                  Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                  1.62 Sititi
                  0.88 Papali'i
                  0.6 Savea
                  0.52 Blackadder
                  0.43 Cane
                  0 Finau, Jacobson

                  Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                  tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                  11.31 Sititi
                  6.8 Savea
                  4.75 Finau
                  3.15 Blackadder
                  2.05 Papali'i
                  1.7 Cane
                  1.06 Jacobson

                  Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                  turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                  4.98 Blackadder
                  4.85 Sititi
                  4.75 Finau
                  3.83 Cane
                  2.34 Papali'i
                  2.27 Savea
                  2.11 Jacobson

                  Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                  6.46 Sititi
                  4.53 Savea
                  0 Finau
                  -0.29 Papali'i
                  -1.05 Jacobson
                  -1.83 Blackadder
                  -2.13 Papali'i

                  Based on the stats my loose trio:

                  6 Finau
                  7 Savea
                  8 Sititi
                  21 Papali'i

                  * Without consideration of rucks attended

                  Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                  They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                  They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                  But they fit yours aye.
                  Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                  This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                  That's BS

                  Go back and watch him in the games. If Scott Barrett had actually made calls to him in the lineouts instead of Savea overall his contribution would still see him being selected.

                  The fiddling at 6 has been poor.

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                  • B brodean

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                    Carries Per 80 Minutes
                    19.39 Sititi
                    16.79 Savea
                    10.85 Finau
                    8.09 Cane
                    7.87 Blackadder
                    4.67 Papali'i
                    2.63 Jacobson

                    Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                    16.17 Cane
                    15.74 Blackadder
                    14.55 Sititi
                    14.24 Finau
                    13.68 Jacobson
                    12.85 Papali'i
                    11.04 Savea

                    Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                    4.85 Sititi
                    4.74 Jacobson
                    2.42 Savea
                    2.10 Blackadder
                    1.36 Finau
                    0.43 Cane
                    0 Papali'i

                    Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                    1.62 Sititi
                    0.88 Papali'i
                    0.6 Savea
                    0.52 Blackadder
                    0.43 Cane
                    0 Finau, Jacobson

                    Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                    tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                    11.31 Sititi
                    6.8 Savea
                    4.75 Finau
                    3.15 Blackadder
                    2.05 Papali'i
                    1.7 Cane
                    1.06 Jacobson

                    Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                    turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                    4.98 Blackadder
                    4.85 Sititi
                    4.75 Finau
                    3.83 Cane
                    2.34 Papali'i
                    2.27 Savea
                    2.11 Jacobson

                    Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                    6.46 Sititi
                    4.53 Savea
                    0 Finau
                    -0.29 Papali'i
                    -1.05 Jacobson
                    -1.83 Blackadder
                    -2.13 Papali'i

                    Based on the stats my loose trio:

                    6 Finau
                    7 Savea
                    8 Sititi
                    21 Papali'i

                    * Without consideration of rucks attended

                    Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                    They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                    They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                    But they fit yours aye.
                    Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                    This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                    That's BS

                    Go back and watch him in the games. If Scott Barrett had actually made calls to him in the lineouts instead of Savea overall his contribution would still see him being selected.

                    The fiddling at 6 has been poor.

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                    Chris
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #6032

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                    Carries Per 80 Minutes
                    19.39 Sititi
                    16.79 Savea
                    10.85 Finau
                    8.09 Cane
                    7.87 Blackadder
                    4.67 Papali'i
                    2.63 Jacobson

                    Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                    16.17 Cane
                    15.74 Blackadder
                    14.55 Sititi
                    14.24 Finau
                    13.68 Jacobson
                    12.85 Papali'i
                    11.04 Savea

                    Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                    4.85 Sititi
                    4.74 Jacobson
                    2.42 Savea
                    2.10 Blackadder
                    1.36 Finau
                    0.43 Cane
                    0 Papali'i

                    Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                    1.62 Sititi
                    0.88 Papali'i
                    0.6 Savea
                    0.52 Blackadder
                    0.43 Cane
                    0 Finau, Jacobson

                    Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                    tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                    11.31 Sititi
                    6.8 Savea
                    4.75 Finau
                    3.15 Blackadder
                    2.05 Papali'i
                    1.7 Cane
                    1.06 Jacobson

                    Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                    turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                    4.98 Blackadder
                    4.85 Sititi
                    4.75 Finau
                    3.83 Cane
                    2.34 Papali'i
                    2.27 Savea
                    2.11 Jacobson

                    Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                    6.46 Sititi
                    4.53 Savea
                    0 Finau
                    -0.29 Papali'i
                    -1.05 Jacobson
                    -1.83 Blackadder
                    -2.13 Papali'i

                    Based on the stats my loose trio:

                    6 Finau
                    7 Savea
                    8 Sititi
                    21 Papali'i

                    * Without consideration of rucks attended

                    Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                    They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                    They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                    But they fit yours aye.
                    Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                    This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                    That's BS

                    Go back and watch him in the games.

                    Fuck me I have more than once he was average as hell.

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                    • B brodean

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                      Carries Per 80 Minutes
                      19.39 Sititi
                      16.79 Savea
                      10.85 Finau
                      8.09 Cane
                      7.87 Blackadder
                      4.67 Papali'i
                      2.63 Jacobson

                      Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                      16.17 Cane
                      15.74 Blackadder
                      14.55 Sititi
                      14.24 Finau
                      13.68 Jacobson
                      12.85 Papali'i
                      11.04 Savea

                      Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                      4.85 Sititi
                      4.74 Jacobson
                      2.42 Savea
                      2.10 Blackadder
                      1.36 Finau
                      0.43 Cane
                      0 Papali'i

                      Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                      1.62 Sititi
                      0.88 Papali'i
                      0.6 Savea
                      0.52 Blackadder
                      0.43 Cane
                      0 Finau, Jacobson

                      Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                      tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                      11.31 Sititi
                      6.8 Savea
                      4.75 Finau
                      3.15 Blackadder
                      2.05 Papali'i
                      1.7 Cane
                      1.06 Jacobson

                      Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                      turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                      4.98 Blackadder
                      4.85 Sititi
                      4.75 Finau
                      3.83 Cane
                      2.34 Papali'i
                      2.27 Savea
                      2.11 Jacobson

                      Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                      6.46 Sititi
                      4.53 Savea
                      0 Finau
                      -0.29 Papali'i
                      -1.05 Jacobson
                      -1.83 Blackadder
                      -2.13 Papali'i

                      Based on the stats my loose trio:

                      6 Finau
                      7 Savea
                      8 Sititi
                      21 Papali'i

                      * Without consideration of rucks attended

                      Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                      They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                      They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                      But they fit yours aye.
                      Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                      This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                      That's BS

                      Go back and watch him in the games. If Scott Barrett had actually made calls to him in the lineouts instead of Savea overall his contribution would still see him being selected.

                      The fiddling at 6 has been poor.

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                      Chris
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #6033

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                      Carries Per 80 Minutes
                      19.39 Sititi
                      16.79 Savea
                      10.85 Finau
                      8.09 Cane
                      7.87 Blackadder
                      4.67 Papali'i
                      2.63 Jacobson

                      Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                      16.17 Cane
                      15.74 Blackadder
                      14.55 Sititi
                      14.24 Finau
                      13.68 Jacobson
                      12.85 Papali'i
                      11.04 Savea

                      Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                      4.85 Sititi
                      4.74 Jacobson
                      2.42 Savea
                      2.10 Blackadder
                      1.36 Finau
                      0.43 Cane
                      0 Papali'i

                      Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                      1.62 Sititi
                      0.88 Papali'i
                      0.6 Savea
                      0.52 Blackadder
                      0.43 Cane
                      0 Finau, Jacobson

                      Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                      tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                      11.31 Sititi
                      6.8 Savea
                      4.75 Finau
                      3.15 Blackadder
                      2.05 Papali'i
                      1.7 Cane
                      1.06 Jacobson

                      Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                      turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                      4.98 Blackadder
                      4.85 Sititi
                      4.75 Finau
                      3.83 Cane
                      2.34 Papali'i
                      2.27 Savea
                      2.11 Jacobson

                      Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                      6.46 Sititi
                      4.53 Savea
                      0 Finau
                      -0.29 Papali'i
                      -1.05 Jacobson
                      -1.83 Blackadder
                      -2.13 Papali'i

                      Based on the stats my loose trio:

                      6 Finau
                      7 Savea
                      8 Sititi
                      21 Papali'i

                      * Without consideration of rucks attended

                      Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                      They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                      They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                      But they fit yours aye.
                      Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.

                      This is something you made up in your head. His performances against England were underrated. His workrate was good and from the eye he hit a lot of rucks too. We won significantly more rucks against England across the 2 tests and we won significantly more rucks under 3 seconds.

                      That's BS

                      Go back and watch him in the games. If Scott Barrett had actually made calls to him in the lineouts instead of Savea overall his contribution would still see him being selected.

                      The fiddling at 6 has been poor.

                      Ohh now it is Scott Barret's fault Finau was poor and got dropped. I see everyone's fault but Finau's.

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                        Old Samurai Jack
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                        #6034

                        FFS, the cult of anti-EB has hit new highs. Waste of time conversing with the religiously obsessed. Nutters!

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                          Old Samurai Jack
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #6035

                          It was a bit like this when Akira/Frizzel occupied the No.6 spot as well. What is it about this position?

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                            It was a bit like this when Akira/Frizzel occupied the No.6 spot as well. What is it about this position?

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                            taniwharugby
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                            #6036

                            @Old-Samurai-Jack all Jerome Kaino's fault, he shouldnt have gotten older and retired.

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                              brodean
                              wrote on last edited by brodean
                              #6037

                              They invest 3 full games in Blackadder to get him up to match fitness and then he gets injured. He made a lot of missed tackles and gave away a lot of penalties.

                              He's a liability.

                              If you don't want Finau put Vaa'i at 6. Vaa'i is just as athletic as the last two Bok blindsides.

                              Blackadder is a broken donkey like Cane was for Foster. There is so much more talent in NZ rugby and Foster then Robertson pick cart horses who are too slow and always broken.

                              It's like those two coaches want to bang their heads against walls and lose.

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                                They invest 3 full games in Blackadder to get him up to match fitness and then he gets injured. He made a lot of missed tackles and gave away a lot of penalties.

                                He's a liability.

                                If you don't want Finau put Vaa'i at 6. Vaa'i is just as athletic as the last two Bok blindsides.

                                Blackadder is a broken donkey like Cane was for Foster. There is so much more talent in NZ rugby and Foster then Robertson pick cart horses who are too slow and always broken.

                                It's like those two coaches want to bang their heads against walls and lose.

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                                #6038

                                @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                like those two coaches want to bang their heads against walls and lose

                                But they picked Wallis, and not Iose. Maybe he should be in the picture too. Akira is signed overseas.
                                I found the (non) usage of Finau by the coaches rather strange. Standing on the sideline positioned for the contestable kicks that never came, and seemingly not being called by Barrett in the lineouts, when EB regularly is when playing 6.

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                                • O Old Samurai Jack

                                  It was a bit like this when Akira/Frizzel occupied the No.6 spot as well. What is it about this position?

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                                  #6039

                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  It was a bit like this when Akira/Frizzel occupied the No.6 spot as well. What is it about this position?

                                  It is a bit odd how 12 has had a comparative free ride considering none of SBW, Crotty, J Barrett etc have measured up to Nonus legacy…..

                                  I started typing this and then remembered David Havili who is basically a less injury prone version of Ethan Blackadder for the backs.

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                                    pakman
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #6040

                                    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-union/the-all-blacks-100-years-of-attitude-324342.html

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                                      Carries Per 80 Minutes
                                      19.39 Sititi
                                      16.79 Savea
                                      10.85 Finau
                                      8.09 Cane
                                      7.87 Blackadder
                                      4.67 Papali'i
                                      2.63 Jacobson

                                      Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                                      16.17 Cane
                                      15.74 Blackadder
                                      14.55 Sititi
                                      14.24 Finau
                                      13.68 Jacobson
                                      12.85 Papali'i
                                      11.04 Savea

                                      Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                                      4.85 Sititi
                                      4.74 Jacobson
                                      2.42 Savea
                                      2.10 Blackadder
                                      1.36 Finau
                                      0.43 Cane
                                      0 Papali'i

                                      Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                                      1.62 Sititi
                                      0.88 Papali'i
                                      0.6 Savea
                                      0.52 Blackadder
                                      0.43 Cane
                                      0 Finau, Jacobson

                                      Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                                      tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                                      11.31 Sititi
                                      6.8 Savea
                                      4.75 Finau
                                      3.15 Blackadder
                                      2.05 Papali'i
                                      1.7 Cane
                                      1.06 Jacobson

                                      Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                                      turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                                      4.98 Blackadder
                                      4.85 Sititi
                                      4.75 Finau
                                      3.83 Cane
                                      2.34 Papali'i
                                      2.27 Savea
                                      2.11 Jacobson

                                      Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                                      6.46 Sititi
                                      4.53 Savea
                                      0 Finau
                                      -0.29 Papali'i
                                      -1.05 Jacobson
                                      -1.83 Blackadder
                                      -2.13 Papali'i

                                      Based on the stats my loose trio:

                                      6 Finau
                                      7 Savea
                                      8 Sititi
                                      21 Papali'i

                                      * Without consideration of rucks attended

                                      Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                                      They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                                      They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                                      But they fit yours aye.
                                      Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.
                                      Stats are not the be all and end all of what goes on the field its a interpretation of what some one sees.
                                      In my job stats do not always tell you a story for selection it is down to circumstances of the game quality of possession, amount of possession how others have performed around you to impact a game.
                                      It is not the bible.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Here are some stats for the year for the loosies ( excluding ruck counts )

                                      Carries Per 80 Minutes
                                      19.39 Sititi
                                      16.79 Savea
                                      10.85 Finau
                                      8.09 Cane
                                      7.87 Blackadder
                                      4.67 Papali'i
                                      2.63 Jacobson

                                      Tackers Per 80 Minutes
                                      16.17 Cane
                                      15.74 Blackadder
                                      14.55 Sititi
                                      14.24 Finau
                                      13.68 Jacobson
                                      12.85 Papali'i
                                      11.04 Savea

                                      Lineouts Per 80 Minutes
                                      4.85 Sititi
                                      4.74 Jacobson
                                      2.42 Savea
                                      2.10 Blackadder
                                      1.36 Finau
                                      0.43 Cane
                                      0 Papali'i

                                      Turnovers won per 80 minutes
                                      1.62 Sititi
                                      0.88 Papali'i
                                      0.6 Savea
                                      0.52 Blackadder
                                      0.43 Cane
                                      0 Finau, Jacobson

                                      Total Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                                      tries + try assists + clean breaks + offloads + defenders beaten + turnovers won + dominant tackles
                                      11.31 Sititi
                                      6.8 Savea
                                      4.75 Finau
                                      3.15 Blackadder
                                      2.05 Papali'i
                                      1.7 Cane
                                      1.06 Jacobson

                                      Total Negative Impacts Per 80 Minutes
                                      turnovers conceded + missed tackles + penalties conceded + (yellow cards*2)
                                      4.98 Blackadder
                                      4.85 Sititi
                                      4.75 Finau
                                      3.83 Cane
                                      2.34 Papali'i
                                      2.27 Savea
                                      2.11 Jacobson

                                      Net Impacts Per 80 Minutes ( Total Impacts - Total Negative Impacts )
                                      6.46 Sititi
                                      4.53 Savea
                                      0 Finau
                                      -0.29 Papali'i
                                      -1.05 Jacobson
                                      -1.83 Blackadder
                                      -2.13 Papali'i

                                      Based on the stats my loose trio:

                                      6 Finau
                                      7 Savea
                                      8 Sititi
                                      21 Papali'i

                                      * Without consideration of rucks attended

                                      Did you make this up these stats ? were did they come from they look unbalanced to me by a long way.

                                      They're the aggregation of Rugby Pass stats.

                                      They look unbalanced because they don't fit your narrative.

                                      But they fit yours aye.
                                      Finau has not made that much impact no fucking way he is missing most of the time.
                                      Stats are not the be all and end all of what goes on the field its a interpretation of what some one sees.
                                      In my job stats do not always tell you a story for selection it is down to circumstances of the game quality of possession, amount of possession how others have performed around you to impact a game.
                                      It is not the bible.

                                      Finau is the new suitcase?

                                      😃

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