All Blacks 2024
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2024:
Lomax and De Groot have the lowest metres per carry out of all props who have played meaningful minutes in the RC. Newell is pretty hopeless in this facet too.
They're great scrummagers and decent cleaners but they're hopeless with ball in hand. Early on in his career it seemed like this was a strong facet of Lomax but it ain't any more.
Of the starting tight five there isn't a single strong close in runner that can get the tight forwards going up the middle. Taylor makes most of his metres wider.
Metres per carry:
5.5 Tosi
3.6 Taylor
1.9 Darry
1.7 Tuipulotu
1.6 Tu'ungafasi
1.5 Vaa'i
1.3 Williams
1 Barrett
1 Aumua
0.7 Newell
0.5 De Groot
0.4 LomaxUnsurprisingly the 3 Blues tight forwards are strong in this facet but they are clearly out of favour.
There's a lack of variety in our game which makes us predictable. We went more up the middle against the Puma's at Eden Park and that was probably our best game of the year.
If you think the All Blacks problems lie in the tight five, I can't help you.
Think there is probably something also to be said for the fact that de Groot and Lomax's minutes come in the first half, where in theory the game is less open... and these stats are incredibly volatile, because one 15m run where a player gets put in a hole could affect this by up to a metre.
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@Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.
Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.
I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.
It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:
@Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.
Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.
I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.
It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.
He doesn't.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...
B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?
I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.
I think it would.
I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.
The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...
B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?
I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.
I think it would.
I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.
The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.
So begs the question who would you have ahead? I would have JRK, but don't think this is as outrageous as people are making it out to be.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.
Perhaps three times the player he is? Maybe even four?
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.
Perhaps three times the player he is? Maybe even four?
I'd settle for 3.7.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.
And he is injured.
Even if he wasn't, he doesn't play for the crusaders so not in immediate consideration
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...
B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?
I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.
I think it would.
I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.
The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.
So begs the question who would you have ahead? I would have JRK, but don't think this is as outrageous as people are making it out to be.
At Fullback/wing?
-Narawa given the FB cover in the squad (Havili)
- Sullivan is the future and has played better at Super level.
- ENS has the left boot we need and is a wing/FB
- Stevenson could get a chance and show quality
In the midfield I can’t be bothered typing all the names.
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I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
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I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
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I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.
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We need to know who they are covering for. It can't be JB, and Love was injured before they went to Sydney, so why replace him now?
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.
Yeah I don't understand it. Maybe I am getting brainwashed from reading the fern too much, but I am starting to wonder.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.
Yeah I don't understand it. Maybe I am getting brainwashed from reading the fern too much, but I am starting to wonder.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.
Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.
Yeah I don't understand it. Maybe I am getting brainwashed from reading the fern too much, but I am starting to wonder.
Australians are usually just like Aucklanders right? You'll be supporting the blues next.
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@Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.
Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.
I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.
It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:
@Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.
Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.
I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.
It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.
You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.
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@darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:
@Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.
Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.
I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.
It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.
You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:
@Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.
Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.
I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.
It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.
You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.
And this is coming from someone who's associated with the same club as Fihaki!
You're both Burnside boys right?
