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    ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

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      @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

      Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

      I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

      It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

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      @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

      Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

      I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

      It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

      He doesn't.

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        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

        Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

        B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

        I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

        I think it would.

        I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.

        The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.

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        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

        Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

        B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

        I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

        I think it would.

        I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.

        The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.

        So begs the question who would you have ahead? I would have JRK, but don't think this is as outrageous as people are making it out to be.

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        • BonesB Bones

          ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

          ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

          And he is injured.

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          • BonesB Bones

            ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

            ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

            Perhaps three times the player he is? Maybe even four?

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

              ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

              Perhaps three times the player he is? Maybe even four?

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              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

              ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

              Perhaps three times the player he is? Maybe even four?

              I'd settle for 3.7.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

                And he is injured.

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                @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                ENS is at least twice the player Fihaki is.

                And he is injured.

                Even if he wasn't, he doesn't play for the crusaders so not in immediate consideration

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                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Fihaki is a bizarre selection, but then also not that outrageous on the basis he is there to cover Love as a fullback...

                  B Barrett has been ill, Perofeta and Love already injured, Stevenson (meh) and off to league supposedly. Who has he edged out? Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens and Sullivan?

                  I mean I'd have those two over him, but also not a huge deal. People just don't like what it represents (another Crusaders player) which is fair. If Fihaki didn't play for the Crusaders, I'm not sure his selection would be seen as a huge deal.

                  I think it would.

                  I'm quite a fan, but he has been terrible at times and rightfully shouldn't start in the Crusaders top team. How that gets him to the ABs ahead of, well, any other FB/wing from another Super side is a bit astounding.

                  The coaches clearly don't care about their Crusaders bias, but it will be self-fulfilling if they scare off talent from every other team.

                  So begs the question who would you have ahead? I would have JRK, but don't think this is as outrageous as people are making it out to be.

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                  @frugby

                  At Fullback/wing?

                  -Narawa given the FB cover in the squad (Havili)

                  • Sullivan is the future and has played better at Super level.
                  • ENS has the left boot we need and is a wing/FB
                  • Stevenson could get a chance and show quality

                  In the midfield I can’t be bothered typing all the names.

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                    I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

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                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                      I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

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                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                        I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

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                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

                        I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

                        Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.

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                          We need to know who they are covering for. It can't be JB, and Love was injured before they went to Sydney, so why replace him now?

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                            We need to know who they are covering for. It can't be JB, and Love was injured before they went to Sydney, so why replace him now?

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                            It can't be JB

                            Beauden?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

                              I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

                              Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

                              I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

                              Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.

                              Yeah I don't understand it. Maybe I am getting brainwashed from reading the fern too much, but I am starting to wonder.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

                                I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

                                Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.

                                Yeah I don't understand it. Maybe I am getting brainwashed from reading the fern too much, but I am starting to wonder.

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                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:

                                I am not a fan of Fihaki by any stretch, I don't like in in the Saders and can tolerate him at NPC level for Canterbury but as was mentioned above, who else is there? @Bones said ENS is injured, Kneepkins has speed but not much else going for him. That leaves Gilbert (hell no) amd Sullivan. I would have picked Sullivan.

                                Exactly! Why not pick any of the players who are actually better? Sure Fihaki had some good games, but he also had some shockers and didn't even play in the finals. It's not like he's experienced cover or screaming pick me. Something is very wrong.

                                Yeah I don't understand it. Maybe I am getting brainwashed from reading the fern too much, but I am starting to wonder.

                                Australians are usually just like Aucklanders right? You'll be supporting the blues next.

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                                  @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                                  Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                                  I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                                  It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

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                                  @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                                  Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                                  I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                                  It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                                  You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

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                                    So Wayne Smith has joined the squad in Wellington, panic stations maybe setting in for Razor and crew

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                                      Is Fihaki related to Atiga?

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                                        Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                                        I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                                        It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                                        You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

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                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                                        Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                                        I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                                        It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                                        You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                                        And this is coming from someone who's associated with the same club as Fihaki!

                                        You're both Burnside boys right?

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                                          Is this an Isaia Toeava type pick?

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