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    Yeahtheboys
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    Love the selection of Fihaki to be brought into the squad. Thought it was really well deserved.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2024:

    Barrett and Vaai are specialist locks. Using them at 6 would be not playing specialists.

    In the international game it’s quite common for LH lock (slim one) to play blindside. Almost a new hybrid role.

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    I’ll be disappointed if Suafoa isn’t included in the AB XV.

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    @pakman Your memory is better than mine.

    Doesn't change the gist of what I was saying about utility in 2015.

    They also pulled Conrad for SBW in the QF vs France. Do you recall who played 2nd five in that game. It would be odd if they played SBW at centre.

    n.b. on reflection, I also suspect Vito played wing rather than centre, but I definitely can't remember that game.

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    @Chris-B I was at that game but had to double check. Nonu started at 12.

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    Hard to see what the All Blacks are building unlike South Africa

    Hard to see what the All Blacks are building unlike South Africa

    To Australia’s great credit, they rallied. Although how could you not, when the other team’s as rudderless as the All Blacks became.

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    Can’t believe people are saying Razor has a Crusaders bias

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

    Hard to see what the All Blacks are building unlike South Africa

    Hard to see what the All Blacks are building unlike South Africa

    To Australia’s great credit, they rallied. Although how could you not, when the other team’s as rudderless as the All Blacks became.

    I had to do a double take on the caption of that article. We weren't "ruthless", and I can't recall many times an AB side has ever been called "rudderless". Dark times

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    @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2024:

    Can’t believe people are saying Razor has a Crusaders bias

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Canerbry said in All Blacks vs Wallabies I:

    @junior Precisely. Shittest All Blacks cattle in living memory this year.

    This is probably an important point, though not the point you are trying to make, when it comes to Razor. This is the first time he's coached a team that isn't absolutely fucking stacked compared to opposition teams in a long time, if ever. In fact he actually has to get this team beating other teams that, on paper, are stronger than his team. That's all new to him.

    That’s not true.

    When he first started out in super rugby, the crusaders weren’t stacked, they were full of players yet to make their mark. Mounga being a prime example and they had lost players such as McCaw,Carter.

    Not this fucking argument again. Those with international experience (test level) at that time bolded. Doesn't include MABs.

    They could run out an AB forward pack, with their AB replacements on the bench in multiple positions, an AB midfield and FB, and at least 10 from the U20s (Strange, Drummy, Hall, Bateman, McKenzie, Mo'unga, Goodhue, Havili, Wainui, Bridge). It's a testament to their development that they got the right pieces at the right time.

    Forwards: Michael Alaalatoa, Wyatt Crockett, Oliver Jager, Joe Moody, Tim Perry, Owen Franks, Ben Funnell, Andrew Makalio, Codie Taylor, Scott Barrett, Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Sam Whitelock, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Jed Brown, Mitchell Dunshea, Kieran Read, Pete Samu, Jordan Taufua, Matt Todd.

    Backs: Mitchell Drummond, Leon Fukofuka, Bryn Hall, Tim Bateman, Marty McKenzie, Richie Mo'unga, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Seta Tamanivalu, Sean Wainui, George Bridge, Israel Dagg, Sione Fifita, Mitchell Hunt, Digby Ioane, Jone Macilai, Manasa Mataele.

    All of this is not to say that Razor didn't do well, but he did not have a team of fucking no names. He had the AB captain and most of the starting forward pack plus much of the emerging back talent stolen from around the country.

    Didnt say he had a team of no names as mentioned in a later post.

    It was a counter argument to someone saying that Razor has always had teams stacked and far better than other sides he faced.

    The Crusaders had not won super rugby for 10 years and had lost a lot of players.

    They also had to win the final in Joburg

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    meads started as a rangy loose forward . . . only switched to lock later

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024:

    A fit and firing Jack Goodhue in his prime (or a player in his mould) would solve a lot of problems in the AB midfield

    He promised much but ultimately failed to deliver because of injury

    Always looked like was running in treacle.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024:

    A fit and firing Jack Goodhue in his prime (or a player in his mould) would solve a lot of problems in the AB midfield

    He promised much but ultimately failed to deliver because of injury

    Always looked like was running in treacle.

    Deceptively quick but his job was to give quicker players space to do their thing

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

    Hard to see what the All Blacks are building unlike South Africa

    Hard to see what the All Blacks are building unlike South Africa

    To Australia’s great credit, they rallied. Although how could you not, when the other team’s as rudderless as the All Blacks became.

    Bidwell absolutely loathes the ABs, he posts in The Roar and Rugbypass etc. Every one is shitting on everything about the ABs. At best, e's playing to his audience if I am being generous. It is hard to take anything he writes seriously

    I watched the game in a group setting. By the end, most of us were so exasperated by Australia not getting the rub of the green – and infuriated by the All Blacks – that we were wanting to see a Wallaby win.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2024:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024:

    A fit and firing Jack Goodhue in his prime (or a player in his mould) would solve a lot of problems in the AB midfield

    He promised much but ultimately failed to deliver because of injury

    Always looked like was running in treacle.

    To be fair Conrad did too at times but he made up for it in other areas

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    @Yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2024:

    Can’t believe people are saying Razor has a Crusaders bias

    I’m hoping it’s not so much a crusaders bias but a leaning towards players he already knows and has worked with before and that it might become less obvious as time moves on.

    To me this feels not so much like the fozzie appointment but a bit more like Mitchell one atm . Where people are watching with raised eyebrows and starting to think , hang on , what’s going on here ?

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    every coach starts out favouring the players he knows. Xavier Rush springs to mind

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    @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024:

    every coach starts out favouring the players he knows. Xavier Rush springs to mind

    Mark Carter!

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    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2024:

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    meads started as a rangy loose forward . . . only switched to lock later

    Yeah - I guess my point is that no-one these days would consider him anything but a specialist lock.

    Interestingly, at 1.92 metres, we'd be a bit concerned that he wouldn't be a tall enough blindside if paired with Ardie! 🙂

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    Just trying to scratch my head in regards as to why our bench is so ineffective and one possible theory either by bad luck or co-inicedence are all of them (forward reserves esp) just poor at the clean-out?

    Amua for instance has been awful at clearing bodies, in Aus1 we had a huge break on in the second half and both him (and I think Tosi) both with fresh legs couldn't shift a singular Aussie defender who then got the turnover.

    However this is just a singular instance I remember and cartainly not a concise video analysis. 🙂

    It's just baffling because theyre all "impact" players - at least when it comes to carrying the ball, but if they come on and can't clear the ruck effectively and we continually concede turnovers then no wonder we can't build anything on attack?

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