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Black Caps tour of India - 2024

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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
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    While it's obviously disappointing to not have Kane available from the start of the tour, it provides an opportunity for someone else to play a role in an important series.

    Technically true, but we're going to run into a bandsaw over there. It is going to be ugly.

    https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/530234/kane-williamson-recovering-from-injury-mark-chapman-called-up-as-cover

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        Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

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        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

          Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

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          MN5
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          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

          Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

          You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

          Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

            Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

            You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

            Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

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            ChrisC Online
            Chris
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            #5

            @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

            Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

            You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

            Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

            that maybe a good thing.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

              Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

              You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

              Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

              that maybe a good thing.

              MN5M Online
              MN5M Online
              MN5
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              #6

              @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

              @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

              Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

              You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

              Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

              that maybe a good thing.

              Yeah I think you completely missed the sarcasm there.

              Bracewell is a Santner clone at test level.

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                MN5
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                #7

                Top order batting line up of…..

                Latham
                Conway
                Young
                Ravindra
                Mitchell
                Blundell

                …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

                  You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

                  Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

                  that maybe a good thing.

                  Yeah I think you completely missed the sarcasm there.

                  Bracewell is a Santner clone at test level.

                  ChrisC Online
                  ChrisC Online
                  Chris
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                  Yikes! No Kane makes it officially Hiding Behind The Couch Time before a ball has even been bowled...

                  You mean hiding behind a bigger couch……

                  Not only that Michael Bracewell is only available for ONE test !!!!!

                  that maybe a good thing.

                  Yeah I think you completely missed the sarcasm there.

                  Bracewell is a Santner clone at test level.

                  Yeah not at test level in anyway.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    Top order batting line up of…..

                    Latham
                    Conway
                    Young
                    Ravindra
                    Mitchell
                    Blundell

                    …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                    But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

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                    Donsteppa
                    wrote on last edited by Donsteppa
                    #9

                    @MN5 That promptly reminded me of Brian Clough - "We had a good team on paper. Unfortunately, the game was played on grass".

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      Top order batting line up of…..

                      Latham
                      Conway
                      Young
                      Ravindra
                      Mitchell
                      Blundell

                      …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                      But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                      ChrisC Online
                      ChrisC Online
                      Chris
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                      Top order batting line up of…..

                      Latham
                      Conway
                      Young
                      Ravindra
                      Mitchell
                      Blundell

                      …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                      But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                      Looks like a collapse every time

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                        Top order batting line up of…..

                        Latham
                        Conway
                        Young
                        Ravindra
                        Mitchell
                        Blundell

                        …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                        But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                        Looks like a collapse every time

                        MN5M Online
                        MN5M Online
                        MN5
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                        #11

                        @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                        Top order batting line up of…..

                        Latham
                        Conway
                        Young
                        Ravindra
                        Mitchell
                        Blundell

                        …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                        But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                        Looks like a collapse every time

                        Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                        I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                        Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                        Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                          @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                          Top order batting line up of…..

                          Latham
                          Conway
                          Young
                          Ravindra
                          Mitchell
                          Blundell

                          …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                          But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                          Looks like a collapse every time

                          Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                          I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                          Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                          Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

                          ChrisC Online
                          ChrisC Online
                          Chris
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                          @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                          @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                          Top order batting line up of…..

                          Latham
                          Conway
                          Young
                          Ravindra
                          Mitchell
                          Blundell

                          …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                          But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                          Looks like a collapse every time

                          Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                          I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                          Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                          Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

                          Yeah that happened

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                            Rapido
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            I doubt nz will make 200 in any of the 6 innings. And I'm expecting 'normal' pitches, not bunsens

                            Didn't expect much from Kane anyway, tbh.

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                            • RapidoR Rapido

                              I doubt nz will make 200 in any of the 6 innings. And I'm expecting 'normal' pitches, not bunsens

                              Didn't expect much from Kane anyway, tbh.

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                              MN5
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @Rapido said in Black Caps tour of India:

                              I doubt nz will make 200 in any of the 6 innings. And I'm expecting 'normal' pitches, not bunsens

                              Didn't expect much from Kane anyway, tbh.

                              May as well cancel the tour then

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                                Rapido
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                                I naively renewed sky sport app subscription before Sri Lanka series. Have already had a reminder in my calendar for a few weeks to cancelitr before it ticks over into the second month.

                                My eyeballs will be spared this massacre.

                                Hopefully Stead will be gone by the time I m next tempted to renew it

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                  Top order batting line up of…..

                                  Latham
                                  Conway
                                  Young
                                  Ravindra
                                  Mitchell
                                  Blundell

                                  …..still looks pretty damn handy on paper. We’ve fielded a shitload worse……

                                  But one guy makes all the difference to that line up. In true NZ fashion you can guarantee a collapse or two at least

                                  Looks like a collapse every time

                                  Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                                  I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                                  Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                                  Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

                                  Yeah that happened

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                                  Rapido
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                                  #16

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                  Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                                  I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                                  Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                                  Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

                                  I don't think so. I reckon you're probably imagining it.

                                  Taylor scored ton in his 3rd test iirc , and he overlapped with Fleming. Plus Ryder tonning up on test debut at that time. Plus Guptill getting his early.

                                  I'd be surprised if we ever had a top 6 in that era minus any century maker.

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                                    I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                                    Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                                    Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

                                    I don't think so. I reckon you're probably imagining it.

                                    Taylor scored ton in his 3rd test iirc , and he overlapped with Fleming. Plus Ryder tonning up on test debut at that time. Plus Guptill getting his early.

                                    I'd be surprised if we ever had a top 6 in that era minus any century maker.

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                                    MN5
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                                    #17

                                    @Rapido said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    @Chris said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                    Here’s one for the stats nerds…….

                                    I’m fairly sure during our darkest days just before Ross Taylor made his debut that we fielded a top order with ZERO test centuries between them at one stage ? The only hundreds in the team belonged to McCullum and Vettori at 7 and 8.

                                    Is that true or did I imagine it ?

                                    Names like Papps, How, Fulton ( he did go on and get some ),

                                    I don't think so. I reckon you're probably imagining it.

                                    Taylor scored ton in his 3rd test iirc , and he overlapped with Fleming. Plus Ryder tonning up on test debut at that time. Plus Guptill getting his early.

                                    I'd be surprised if we ever had a top 6 in that era minus any century maker.

                                    Hmmmm I mentioned Papps, Fulton, How……add in Flynn, Redmond….did they ever all play together ?

                                    Maybe I am imagining it, it was definitely when Ryder and Taylor emerged and Fleming retired.

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                                      There was that series in Bangladesh where Vettori essentially had to bat at #5(?). That might have been close to that stat, but also technically ruled out by having to promote Dan.

                                      There was a phase around where the top six had very view tons, but it'd probably take a lot of scorecard scanning.

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                                        It never happened. NZ hasn't played all that many tests. If you bring up a list of every Test we have played and similar lists for Fleming and Taylor you don't need to check scorecards. One was ever present right through till the rise of Kane and the golden age

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                                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                          There was that series in Bangladesh where Vettori essentially had to bat at #5(?). That might have been close to that stat, but also technically ruled out by having to promote Dan.

                                          There was a phase around where the top six had very view tons, but it'd probably take a lot of scorecard scanning.

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                                          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India:

                                          There was that series in Bangladesh where Vettori essentially had to bat at #5(?). That might have been close to that stat, but also technically ruled out by having to promote Dan.

                                          There was a phase around where the top six had very view tons, but it'd probably take a lot of scorecard scanning.

                                          That match had 3 century makers in top 6 in first innings and 4 in second innings (where Vettori promoted himself to 4 and 4,5,6 dropped down a spot each meaning Flynn dropped to 7).

                                          Baz was batting at 5 that series as well as keeping. The other 2 being Taylor and Ryder.

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