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@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby Championship scrapped?:

@Dan54 said in Rugby Championship scrapped?:

@Kiwiwomble said in Rugby Championship scrapped?:

@Dan54 no i was saying the lions tour is not really comparable to us touring SA as you were suggesting because they are so infrequent, yes the tour next year will be different....but we will still have played SA within 12 months as opposed to 12 years

no, RA got $100M flat fee for the RWC and a fair chunk is already gone on debt with little making it past the super teams, and not sure how else to word im not stressing about aussie...but about how i feel a competitive RC like this year is better for the AB's than exhibition games against the SA franchise and repetitive games against the Bokke

Well Phil Waugh is a liar if you correct mate. I saw him in Inside Rugby last week saying RA has cleared debt with profit from Lions tour ($100 mill) and the money from WC will go into a fund. Who should I believe?

or....more likely i misread something (although we havent seen any change in the club scene)....i feel jumping straight to "random guy on the internet calls Waugh a liar!....news at 10".....comes across like looking for an argument

Na wasn't looking for argument, was lighthearted way of someone has missed news or something. But also saying the woe is me doesn't work coming out of Aussie for me anymore. SA were it seems almost technically bankrupt last year, NZR lost a fair chunk of money, yet when these 2 unions try to something about it, it's criminal, because Lions only tour every 12 years and they got another 100 mill (reportedly)for WC in 27, spare me the tears how NZ/SA are somehow should worry about Aus before themselves. The only ones I feel for are Argentina, and even then well it's not up to NZR and SA to fund them. Reading some forums you would think Aus rugby is a NZR dependant.

As an example mate, @MiketheSnow says I am a dolt because I shrugged and said I didn't worry what Aus do next year. I genuinely care what Aus and NZR do, but don't actively worry about it, and RA has know that this tour was going ahead for at least 2 years, and if they have chosen not to do something, I am not going to lose sleep over it.

Was a game for the ages and the performance by the forward pack was immense. I heard Tucker & Wingham made 20 tackles each

@Dan54 overall in general obviously but in Bells case the John McGlashen old boy getting the chance to play in a final against Otago of all teams is an opportunity gone begging 🙂 as an Otago fan however more than happy to not see George or Sam next week lol

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/sportstalk/audio/craig-innes-former-all-black-on-the-future-of-new-zealands-rugby-pathways-for-secondary-schools/

@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

@Dan54

I just hate dickheaded-ness in Rugby no matter where it comes from. Which was why the RWC QF was so bloody satisfying - Sexton's tears being the sweetest icing on the cake

I did too up to a point, and realised that dickheadedness comes in may forms, and I wasn't above letting a halfback etc know what I thought of him if I had managed to get him (even if a bit late etc). I know we all kind of have our rules etc, but watching Coles goad Codie Taylor into getting YCed was something I enjoyed.
I also had a former French rugby player billeted with us a few years back in Aus. part of management of a club side we looked after. This man proudly told me that he had marked Colin Meads in a couple of tests, and after a few drinks we had laughed at rugby stories etc of what happened in tests etc that he had played in against not just Abs, but others too. Take y word for it, mouthing off etc would be least dicie thing that was happening.
Same as sledging in cricket, height of dickheadedness or just getting in heads?

@Billy-Webb said in Springboks v Argentina Twickenham:

By all means, continue that conversation in SPORTS TALK, but let's focus on relevant game commentary / thoughts / analysis in this thread please.

Fair enuff.

I'll put a couple of thoughts in the Springbok thread.

Our forwards were awesome this year - scrum time, lineout when Moulds was throwing, winning the contact. Ran out of gas ⛽️ in the last game with injuries etc. I loved what Heenan did for the team. Accurate, a leader, a real professional - we only have a few guys fit that fit that category - Moulds, Cory Evans leads the backs….but signs this year that players are learning to stay in games.

@Steven-Harris , Yeah, its part of Reon Grahams job description to do all of that work around development and working with other rep coaches. Some provincial coaches spend the first part of the year at Super rugby level or the new ones aren't even appointed at that time. As a recent Premier club coach, he would be fully aware of the talent in the province.

Is that the Fern record for a thread necro?

@Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

@KiwiMurph said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

@Dan54 said in QF: Hawkes Bay v Taranaki:

No argument , I wasn't accusing anyone here of that, merely stating that anyone who was blaming him had holes in head. You feeling a little precious or victimized this morning mate? 😁

Feeling fine. I was just particularly interested in your take given that you have been leading the Jacomb bandwagon for some time.

Still will be on Jacomb bandwagon, I been watching this game long enough to not write off a player when he didn't have a good game. I haven't yet seen a player be on top of game all the time, and I only on his bandwagon as I think he probably the most balanced of the uncapped 10s we got.
I genuinely think young Simpson from Auckland another I like the look of.

I dont think anyone is writing him off.

Though I think the desperation for some fresh blood at 10 in NZ has seen his stock rise above what he's actually produced.

Simpson at least has a huge boot which is rarity - hopefully he can get some better coaching than the Auckland 2025 environment - either at Auckland or elsewhere - so that he can start developing.

@Kiwiwomble said in QF: Otago v Waikato:

@brodean probably fair, but that tells me we just need to be better with players IN the system rather than leaving them to "develop" for years, i think take players on hot form and expose them to the next level...rather than play it too safe and then wonder why they didn;t kick on

Agree completely.

But you have to wonder what the point of having 4 players deep is if youre not going to pick the player of those 4 who is in form now?

@Canes4life said in QF: BOP v Ta$man:

There’s definitely a world where I can see Fehi in the ABs. He’s been on fire all season for BOP.

He was strong for Hurricanes too (as well as AB 7s). Should be on the radar.

Clean sweep for the Aces.

Phoenix lucky to be there in the first place. The Aces v Fever the pick of the series.

Oh that Peter Russell.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/sport/the-coach-who-reignited-hawke-s-bay-rugby-peter-russell-rip/

@DurryMexted I've responded to you in the 2026 thread. Let's kill this thread team and discuss anything for next year here - https://forum.silverfern.rugby/topic/7391/hurricanes-2026/163

https://countiessportshub.co.nz/steelers-out-to-make-good-on-1982-hoodoo/