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  • ChrisC Chris

    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @shark you're probably the best person to ask, are the surrounding regional councils chipping in now? i know a couple of years back they generally said no but maybe thats changed?

    No they are not another sore point as Chch city council have not requested them too.

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    @chris good, i dont feel bad about flaming my aunt and some friends that i know live in rural canterbury suddenly becoming very vocal on the socals about it, fair enough those that will actually pay and use it

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

      the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

      edit: looked it up, exactly 10

      • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
        Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
        West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
        Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
        Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
        Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
        Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
        Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
        Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
        Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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      @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

      @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

      the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

      edit: looked it up, exactly 10

      • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
        Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
        West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
        Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
        Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
        Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
        Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
        Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
        Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
        Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

      That new Brentford one is 20k isn't it ? Nice tidy development with housing etc.

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      • gt12G gt12

        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

        the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

        edit: looked it up, exactly 10

        • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
          Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
          West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
          Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
          Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
          Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
          Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
          Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
          Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
          Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

        Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?

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        @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

        the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

        edit: looked it up, exactly 10

        • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
          Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
          West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
          Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
          Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
          Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
          Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
          Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
          Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
          Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro

        Isn't at least one big stadium missing from that list?

        The information for Spurs is a touch out of date too.

        @dogmeat said in Stadium of Canterbury:

        @kiwiwomble Yeah I wasn't really trying to show the total capacity of London's stadia - after all you can only go to one at a time.

        I wasn't even that interested in Wembley's the /shrug was supposed to indicate that I think the whole idea of looking at a stadiums capacity as a % of the local population is meh - so what. Sall population centres will always have a higher % and big ones lower but I don't think it signifies 5/8 Fuck All.

        However as you went to all that effort. Craven Cottage is currently being redeveloped to make it even more awesome and will have a capacity of 30K when it re-opens 😉

        There are extremely strict policing laws too around what stadiums can have events on the same day too. Only so many police / stewards to go around.

        Reading is a bit of a stretch too as a London stadium.

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @dogmeat how many other stadiums over 20k does london have though, id say more than 10

          the rational of % of population does have an upper limit as we're just never going to get +200k full seated stadiums

          edit: looked it up, exactly 10

          • Wembley Stadium 90,000 City
            Arsenal Emirates Stadium 60,000 City
            West Ham United London Stadium 60,000 City
            Chelsea Stamford Bridge 41,837 City
            Tottenham Hotspur White Hart Lane 36,240 City
            Charlton Athletic The Valley 27,111 City
            Crystal Palace Selhurst Park 26,225 City
            Fulham Craven Cottage 25,700 City
            Reading Madejski Stadium 24,161 Region
            Watford Vicarage Road 21,500 Metro
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          @kiwiwomble What has happened to The Den as I thought it had the ability to hold slightly over 20,000? Maybe the visitors end has been closed to prevent the inevitable trouble it's occupation will bring.

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          • HigginsH Higgins

            @kiwiwomble What has happened to The Den as I thought it had the ability to hold slightly over 20,000? Maybe the visitors end has been closed to prevent the inevitable trouble it's occupation will bring.

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            @higgins haven’t compiled the list myself, just cut and paste it from a very quick google

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            • RapidoR Rapido

              I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.

              Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.

              It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.

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              @rapido said in Stadium of Canterbury:

              I remember 1993 Bledisloe in Dunedin. They added extra capacity. 39,000 in a city of about 105,000 at the time.

              Let alone seeing 1970s Okara Park full with 30k etc, or say 1983 Rotorua for the Lions match with 30k - each in a town of about 40k at the time.

              It was very cheap to maintain a ground that is 85% grass banks. Just a bit of gas money for the tractor mower.

              That was the first ever million dollar gate in NZ. The ORFU set up the tent village at Bathgate Park for pre and post match festivities for profit and also to take pressure off Dunedin's bars. Massive attendance from visiting fans domestically and internationally.

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                https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

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                  [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

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                  • ChrisC Chris

                    [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

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                    @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                    [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/126044306/christchurch-to-get-30000seat-stadium-after-council-backtrack

                    About time you useless fucks on the council,

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                      https://twitter.com/barneymainsy/status/1425678801468465153

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                        https://twitter.com/steve_walton99/status/1425690519435243522

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                          https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                          This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                          pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                            This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                            pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

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                            @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                            https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                            This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                            pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                            If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                              This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                              pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                              If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

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                              @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                              https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                              This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                              pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                              If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                              This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

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                                @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                Don't worry, I'm a Selwyn rates payer and I'll let them know that we should contribute. I'd like that far more than a new fucking park in Rolleston ffs.

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                  This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                  pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                  If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                  This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.

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                                  @kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                  https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                  This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                  pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                  If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                  This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.

                                  Imagine being that shit at politics, local council was your ceiling.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                    This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                    pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                    If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                    Don't worry, I'm a Selwyn rates payer and I'll let them know that we should contribute. I'd like that far more than a new fucking park in Rolleston ffs.

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                                    @gt12 said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                    https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                    This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                    pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                    If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                    Don't worry, I'm a Selwyn rates payer and I'll let them know that we should contribute. I'd like that far more than a new fucking park in Rolleston ffs.

                                    100 per cent

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                      This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                      pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                      If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                      This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.

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                                      @kirwan said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @chris said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      @kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

                                      https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/selwyn-should-not-help-pay-new-christchurch-stadium-councillor?fbclid=IwAR0rw2Jjzj5-kRnz_-Alq5rIJ7NkiBsIUJE0oOxs5Io6GRlmMPWwMkG5Xv0

                                      This is the annoying stuff, not only should the funding be more secure before deciding what to build, i know plenty of people from the surrounding districts that signed the petition, hell actively campaigned on the socials for others to do so

                                      pretty unfair to the actual residents of chch

                                      If you don't want to contribute don't attend matches at the stadium,Very annoying article it is a regional stadium not a Chch stadium,This attitude really pisses me off.

                                      This has been a great demonstration of how broken local councils can get.

                                      I am afraid you are correct,

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                                        Christchurch City Council should have been discussing it either with ECan or individual councils. I'd like some money from other councils, but CCC can carry some blame for not even asking while everyone was going through the long term planning process.

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                                          still discussing it after a decision have been made about size etc is pretty fucked up

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