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    Damo
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    Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

    Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

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    • DamoD Damo

      Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

      Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

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      @damo said in Americas Cup:

      Does anybody know why they went away from the triangular courses that used to be used? At the moment they just go upwind and downwind for 6 legs. If there was a triangular course that would provide some variation.

      Back when I used to sail, the standard was once around a triangle and then a final long leg to finish.

      It's the boats mostly (and TB coverage and spectator appeal).
      I've mentioned it before but I think an Olympic triangle doesn't really suit these boats - nor the cats. They are always upwind, because of apparent wind. Look how tight trimmed / close hauled they are "downwind". There ain't any goose wing sets anymore.

      A reach leg wouldn't involve any sailing skill, just the drag out to the mark.

      All a bit of a mind fuck for old school sailors. I call it physics, some call it witchcraft, but not much point in a triangle as I see it.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        so on the TVNZ Sports piece, they have Burling as the 'Flight Controller' but Spittal as 'co-helmsman'

        Do we have co-helmsman too, or do LR have a Flight Controller?

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        Bovidae
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        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

        so on the TVNZ Sports piece, they have Burling as the 'Flight Controller' but Spittal as 'co-helmsman'

        The correct titles for TNZ are:
        Burling - helmsman
        Ashby - trimmer
        Tuke - flight controller

        Do we have co-helmsman too, or do LR have a Flight Controller?

        Bruni and Spithill are co-helmsmen (they don't change sides), Sibello is the mainsail trimmer. It looks like they also use some grinders as trimmers.

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        • SnowyS Offline
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          Burling is also Skipper as is Spithill.

          Not just helmsmen, the buck stops with them (on the water anyway).

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          • SnowyS Snowy

            Burling is also Skipper as is Spithill.

            Not just helmsmen, the buck stops with them (on the water anyway).

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            @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

            https://www.lunarossachallenge.com/en/team#landing-team-sailing

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

              https://www.lunarossachallenge.com/en/team#landing-team-sailing

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              @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

              @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

              https://www.lunarossachallenge.com/en/team#landing-team-sailing

              Thanks. I know who he is but he sure doesn't say much on board.

              Pretty sure they had Spithill listed as skipper on the TB. Is Sirena always on the boat?

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                Key question, who's responsible for making the G+Ts?

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                  Fuck there's some morons out there

                  Duncan why does the wind need to be strong enough? Can’t they race off foils?
                  TimZ

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                    Fuck there's some morons out there

                    Duncan why does the wind need to be strong enough? Can’t they race off foils?
                    TimZ

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                    @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

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                      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                      @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                      Racing at 5 knots lol

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

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                        @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                        @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                        Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

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                        • DamoD Damo

                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                          @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                          Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

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                          @damo said in Americas Cup:

                          @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                          @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                          Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

                          Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

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                          • M Machpants

                            @damo said in Americas Cup:

                            @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                            @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                            Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

                            Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

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                            @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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                            • DamoD Damo

                              @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                              @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                              Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

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                              @damo said in Americas Cup:

                              @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                              @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                              Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

                              A displacement race would make me laugh, except we lost in SF due to a time limit so don't want to go there. About as fair as a CWC decided on boundaries. I'm not bitter at all, well maybe a little...fucking arseholes that make stupid rules...they don't understand the sport... they are all idiots...mutter, mutter.

                              Going back to the GOM thread.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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                                @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                  @machpants could start them at 9am and let them go!

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                                  @machpants That was more exciting than the current "races".

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                    @canefan I think all the monohull ACs were more like that, so pre 2013 (ignoring the deed of gift), I’m sure 95-2007 were more like that

                                    I was thinking more recently, either SF or Bermuda

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                                    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                    @canefan I think all the monohull ACs were more like that, so pre 2013 (ignoring the deed of gift), I’m sure 95-2007 were more like that

                                    I was thinking more recently, either SF or Bermuda

                                    I thought I’d seen these courses were very similar is size to SF and Bermuda, tighter grandstand courses rather than out further like before that

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @damo said in Americas Cup:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                      @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                                      Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

                                      Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

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                                      @machpants said in Americas Cup:

                                      @damo said in Americas Cup:

                                      @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

                                      @machpants well they could, it'd just be slower...

                                      Couldn't be any more dull than what we've seen recently.

                                      Except the race wouldn't finish, they'd run out of time

                                      Just make it one leg.

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                        @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

                                        https://www.lunarossachallenge.com/en/team#landing-team-sailing

                                        Thanks. I know who he is but he sure doesn't say much on board.

                                        Pretty sure they had Spithill listed as skipper on the TB. Is Sirena always on the boat?

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                                        @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                                        @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                        @snowy Max Sirena is their skipper.

                                        https://www.lunarossachallenge.com/en/team#landing-team-sailing

                                        Thanks. I know who he is but he sure doesn't say much on board.

                                        Pretty sure they had Spithill listed as skipper on the TB. Is Sirena always on the boat?

                                        I don't think he is ever on the boat. The job titles seem to be arbitrary. Bruni and Spithill look to have equal on-board responsibilities for Luna Rossa.

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                                          was stupid having it on same time as the BLues anyway!

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