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  • B beardie

    Jordan Taufua away after the WC.
    http://rugbylad.ie/leicester-tigers-complete-signing-crusaders-star/

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    @beardie said in Exodus 2019:

    Jordan Taufua away after the WC.
    http://rugbylad.ie/leicester-tigers-complete-signing-crusaders-star/

    Can't blame him really. Has seen first hand how shit luck can destroy opportunities.
    Would have made a nice addition to the ABs to see how he would have gone as a loose forward bench impact. Certainly brings go-forward to the game.
    AFAIK he still qualifies for Samoa (has played U20s for both NZ and Samoa, born in NZ, selected for ABs but never took the field). He might just keep that option open.

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        SBW is one of, if not the most, physically gifted players I have ever seen in either rugby code. By all reports he is an absolute model pro off the field.

        It's a bit shit his NZ rugby time has been limited by injuries (and Ma'a) but what we have seen has been something no one else could provide.

        But for all the press, good and bad, where ever he has played I have watched, and loved. He is professional football personified.

        Good luck to him and I hope he has a massive 2019

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          SBW is one of, if not the most, physically gifted players I have ever seen in either rugby code. By all reports he is an absolute model pro off the field.

          It's a bit shit his NZ rugby time has been limited by injuries (and Ma'a) but what we have seen has been something no one else could provide.

          But for all the press, good and bad, where ever he has played I have watched, and loved. He is professional football personified.

          Good luck to him and I hope he has a massive 2019

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          @mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:

          SBW is one of, if not the most, physically gifted players I have ever seen in either rugby code. By all reports he is an absolute model pro off the field.

          It's a bit shit his NZ rugby time has been limited by injuries (and Ma'a) but what we have seen has been something no one else could provide.

          But for all the press, good and bad, where ever he has played I have watched, and loved. He is professional football personified.

          Good luck to him and I hope he has a massive 2019

          Apart from those that provided it of course.

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            @Nepia said in Exodus 2019:

            @taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.

            A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.

            For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.

            It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.

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            @rotated said in Exodus 2019:

            @Nepia said in Exodus 2019:

            @taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.

            A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.

            For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.

            It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.

            Got any stats to back up that claim?

            Edit: I can't find any lists but clicking through all of SBWs games he has 1 Red and 3 Yellows so the claim above could be correct. I am guessing a reasonable list of 2 YCs and possibly a few with 3 YCs (Kaino? Read?)
            Edit:2 thanks @Bones for finding the list below.

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              Interesting Stat

              Players with 50+ tests for the ABs and a win % over 90%

              Crockett 94.36
              BBBR 92.66
              Dagg 92.42
              SBW 92.15
              Cruden 91
              B Smith 90.78
              J Savea 90.74
              BB 90.41
              Cane 90

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @rotated said in Exodus 2019:

                @Nepia said in Exodus 2019:

                @taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.

                A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.

                For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.

                It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.

                Got any stats to back up that claim?

                Edit: I can't find any lists but clicking through all of SBWs games he has 1 Red and 3 Yellows so the claim above could be correct. I am guessing a reasonable list of 2 YCs and possibly a few with 3 YCs (Kaino? Read?)
                Edit:2 thanks @Bones for finding the list below.

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                @Crucial said in Exodus 2019:

                @rotated said in Exodus 2019:

                @Nepia said in Exodus 2019:

                @taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.

                A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.

                For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.

                It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.

                Got any stats to back up that claim?

                I'm thinking no, if this is anything to go by.
                http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=8;type=team

                ac87ab08-7ec9-415a-ae67-175c6fdd3382-image.png

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                  @Crucial said in Exodus 2019:

                  @rotated said in Exodus 2019:

                  @Nepia said in Exodus 2019:

                  @taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.

                  A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.

                  For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.

                  It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.

                  Got any stats to back up that claim?

                  I'm thinking no, if this is anything to go by.
                  http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=8;type=team

                  ac87ab08-7ec9-415a-ae67-175c6fdd3382-image.png

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                  @Bones said in Exodus 2019:

                  @Crucial said in Exodus 2019:

                  @rotated said in Exodus 2019:

                  @Nepia said in Exodus 2019:

                  @taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.

                  A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.

                  For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.

                  It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.

                  Got any stats to back up that claim?

                  I'm thinking no, if this is anything to go by.
                  http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/most_yellow_cards.html?id=8;type=team

                  ac87ab08-7ec9-415a-ae67-175c6fdd3382-image.png

                  I'll take that back then - did not realize Read had pick up so many - with four he is equal second - with a red.

                  Hopefully three RWC knockout games to go this year so he should at least get one more, can he get to six though?

                  edit: Although on a card/game basis for anyone with multiple cards he is far and away on everyone on that table except Mark Robinson 2/9 and Masoe 2/20.

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110509499/all-blacks-enforcer-liam-squire-to-leave-new-zealand-and-chase-the-money-in-japan

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/110509499/all-blacks-enforcer-liam-squire-to-leave-new-zealand-and-chase-the-money-in-japan

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                      @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                      Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                        Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

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                        @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                        @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                        Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

                        From the same reporter that goes on to list all the other All Blacks forwards moving on after the RWC. First name mentioned; Taufua...

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                          Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

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                          @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                          @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                          Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

                          Good company at breakfast though .

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                            Club is known:

                            https://twitter.com/sumostevenson/status/1094800119717715968

                            If they're staying, he'll be joining Isaad Ross, Luteru Laulala and head coach Rob Penney.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                              Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

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                              @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                              @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                              Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

                              haha we're so underwhelming at 6

                              ABs Instagram had a happy birthday to an AB up today, and i had literally no idea who the fuck it was (turns out it was that Highlanders reserve blindside).

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                                post WC is not such bad news for a player of his standard .

                                I probably wont be losing any sleep over this one .

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                                  @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                                  Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

                                  haha we're so underwhelming at 6

                                  ABs Instagram had a happy birthday to an AB up today, and i had literally no idea who the fuck it was (turns out it was that Highlanders reserve blindside).

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                                  @mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:

                                  @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                                  @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                                  Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

                                  haha we're so underwhelming at 6

                                  ABs Instagram had a happy birthday to an AB up today, and i had literally no idea who the fuck it was (turns out it was that Highlanders reserve blindside).

                                  Which one?

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                                    I see the Wobblies have lost Curtis Rona to London Irish

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                                      Miss the early days of super rugby when all the best players from SANZAR played rugby in the SH.

                                      Such a pity England and France didn’t centrally contract their players.

                                      Seems like everyday some international from one of the countries jumps to the NH ship.

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                                        @mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:

                                        @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

                                        @KiwiMurph All Blacks enforcer? I have seen this a number of times, where did this come from, the fact he has worn the 6 jersey previously occupied by Jerome?

                                        Leaves after a rather underwhelming AB career.

                                        haha we're so underwhelming at 6

                                        ABs Instagram had a happy birthday to an AB up today, and i had literally no idea who the fuck it was (turns out it was that Highlanders reserve blindside).

                                        Which one?

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                                        @booboo Shannon Frizell

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                                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                          @booboo Shannon Frizell

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                                          @Yeetyaah said in Exodus 2019:

                                          @booboo Shannon Frizell

                                          Ooooh. Ok

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