2019 Cricket ODI WC
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@Godder said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Godder said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Is there still room on the
WarriorsBlack Caps bandwagon?Unless you can provide at least ten years of fern related Black Caps support then no. Go and become a fan of Team NZ or Lydia Ko when she does well instead.
Sweet, sorted! I joined in Feb 2008 and have supported the Black Caps since then.
I'm still gonna need evidence. Loads of posts talking up Jesse Ryder as potentially our best batsman ever will be a good start. Also chronic whinging about Brad Haddin as the worst human being since Hitler won't go amiss either.
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West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
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I guess the good news that's come out of that game is that Little Kane and Blundell have got some batting form going into the first CWC game - as, probably, has Rossco.
We probably got some just desserts in terms of our lack of preparation going into this game. If you look at the runs scored by our players since March (including this game) in any form of cricket it makes sad reading.
Guptill 108
Nicholls 30
Kane 294
Ross 250
Blundell 207
Neesham 74
CDG 26
Santner 51In contrast, Shai Hopes has scored almost 600 runs in May playing warm up games for the CWC.
I guess our guys are unlikely to run out of steam and if we can muddle through and win our first three games vs Sri Lanka , Bangladesh and Afghanistan we have time to find some form.
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@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
His averages aren't too bad...
I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment
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@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
His averages aren't too bad...
I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment
@canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
His averages aren't too bad...
I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment
Pretty poor ODI stats for someone who’s game woulda suited it one would have thought
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@canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
His averages aren't too bad...
I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment
Pretty poor ODI stats for someone who’s game woulda suited it one would have thought
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@MN5 Oh yeah. Test average was ok. But I agree ODI average not good. I remember him being pretty brash, almost like a prototypical McCullum but nowhere near as good.
@canefan I think he also tried to force the tempo of the game a lot, and that often meant him taking more risks. Did love his bowling aggression though, had the attitude of a guy sending them down at 140km/hr+ lol
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@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
His averages aren't too bad...
I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment
@canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.
Did McMillan undeliver?
His averages aren't too bad...
I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment
I think more of a feeling that when we needed him to stand up, mostly he didn't aside from the occasional belter and the fact he was occasionally brilliant left me feeling like maybe he could've been more brilliant more often.
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But the pace ace with the high-armed action expects to be back to his best for the World Cup defence where the Kookaburra ball will be used. -
that was more of a cool down match than a warm up for the Black Caps, even would have fancied my chances scoring a few off them. Well done to the Windies though, they could be a bit of a dark horse in this tournament, would have to check cricinfo but I suspect they have a pretty good record in England, if records mean anything. What would be the Black caps plan - bat first at all costs or prefer to chase?
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@Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...
He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".
Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.
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@Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...
He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".
Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.
@Chris-B one of my good friends is Mick. Great bloke. I always point out ( on his behalf because he doesn't seem to give a shit) that Ponting didn't bowl out his premier bowler that day, Lee, against a rampant herschelle
While I'm sticking up for me mate, who doesn't need it and would never ask for it, here he is securing a win against us. We needed a paltry, gettable 6 of the last over to win
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@Chris-B one of my good friends is Mick. Great bloke. I always point out ( on his behalf because he doesn't seem to give a shit) that Ponting didn't bowl out his premier bowler that day, Lee, against a rampant herschelle
While I'm sticking up for me mate, who doesn't need it and would never ask for it, here he is securing a win against us. We needed a paltry, gettable 6 of the last over to win
@Siam He might have taken a record for the longest six balls with that over, as well - if he'd needed them.
McCullum and Vettori batting needing six off the last over - a few years later they'd have done it at a walk.
And Michael Clarke largely derailed us with a run out. Having watched that has set him back another five years before I'm willing to countenance that he's not a fluffybunny of the first water.
In fact, you should be bloody banned for posting that!
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@Siam He might have taken a record for the longest six balls with that over, as well - if he'd needed them.
McCullum and Vettori batting needing six off the last over - a few years later they'd have done it at a walk.
And Michael Clarke largely derailed us with a run out. Having watched that has set him back another five years before I'm willing to countenance that he's not a fluffybunny of the first water.
In fact, you should be bloody banned for posting that!
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Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.
In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.
Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.
Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.
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Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.
In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.
Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.
Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.
@Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.
In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.
Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.
Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.
Why would we pick Blundell ahead of Nicholls? Surely Nicholls has established himself in the team. I don't care what he scores in the warm ups. He has earned the right.
