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  • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

    pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

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    @WillieTheWaiter yes, for the contentious decisions the arguments are pretty sound.

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      I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

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        I'd like to NOT see Jordie Barrett in the squad.

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        • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

          pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

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          @WillieTheWaiter said in World Cup Squad Positions:

          pretty decent article.. squad seems about right

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/113786024/rugby-world-cup-the-all-blacks-squad-is-coming-into-view

          Related but unrelated question ... is Cully the best rugby writer in NZ at the moment? Certainly is for me. Not bad for an Irish fella living in Dunedin who writes for the Sydney Morning Herald!

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          • gt12G gt12

            I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

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            @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

            I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

            There's certainly less noise this year.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

              There's certainly less noise this year.

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              @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

              There's certainly less noise this year.

              I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                There's certainly less noise this year.

                I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

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                @nzzp said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                @antipodean said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                @gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                I think there are one too many fullbacks and one two few 10s, which Jordie is not. I think they need three, as if Barrett is injured early but could be ready later in the tournament, you want two 10s there for the games until that time. I imagine that Josh Ioane will get his chance in the 4N. I'm also less than convinced that they will finally pick Akira Ioane.

                There's certainly less noise this year.

                I'm a fan of Akira, but his form hasn't been great through the back end of the season. If they pick him, it's because they'll back themselves to get the best out of him. His upside is just massive -- if he can get the discipline and work ethic to go with it he'd be a world beater

                Perhaps a rest is what he needs, but the change in his game presumably to suit what the ABs wanted to see more of or having Coventry at the Blues has shortened the highlight reel somewhat.

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                  For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                  Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                  Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                  Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                  Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                  Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                  No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                  Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                  Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                    For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                    Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                    Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                    Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                    Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                    Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                    Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                    No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                    Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                    Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                    I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

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                      From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                      Harris vs Coltman
                      Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                      Weber vs TTT
                      Inclusion of Ioane
                      Bridge vs Naholo

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                        Harris vs Coltman
                        Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                        Weber vs TTT
                        Inclusion of Ioane
                        Bridge vs Naholo

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                        From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                        Harris vs Coltman
                        Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                        Weber vs TTT
                        Inclusion of Ioane
                        Bridge vs Naholo

                        I would change that into:

                        Harris vs Coltman
                        Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                        Weber vs TTT
                        Bridge vs Naholo

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                          Harris vs Coltman
                          Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                          Weber vs TTT
                          Inclusion of Ioane
                          Bridge vs Naholo

                          I would change that into:

                          Harris vs Coltman
                          Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                          Weber vs TTT
                          Bridge vs Naholo

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                          @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                          Harris vs Coltman
                          Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                          Weber vs TTT
                          Inclusion of Ioane
                          Bridge vs Naholo

                          I would change that into:

                          Harris vs Coltman
                          Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                          Weber vs TTT
                          Bridge vs Naholo

                          thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                            For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                            Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                            Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                            Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                            Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                            Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                            Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                            No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                            Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                            Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                            I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

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                            @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                            @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                            For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                            Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                            Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                            Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                            Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                            Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                            Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                            No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                            Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                            Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                            I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                            I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                            Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                              Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                              Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                              Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                              Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                              Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                              Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                              No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                              Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                              Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                              I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                              I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                              Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                              For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                              Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                              Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                              Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                              Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                              Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                              Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                              No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                              Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                              Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                              I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                              I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                              Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

                              That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Inclusion of Ioane
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                I would change that into:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

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                                @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Inclusion of Ioane
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                I would change that into:

                                Harris vs Coltman
                                Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                Weber vs TTT
                                Bridge vs Naholo

                                thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

                                On form you'd have to agree, but Harris is reportedly a better scrummager.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  For those that can’t access the article, below is Cully’s squad.

                                  Possible 31-man All Blacks squad for the Rugby World Cup:

                                  Hookers: Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Nathan Harris
                                  Props: Joe Moody, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Owen Franks, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tuungafasi
                                  Locks: Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett
                                  Loose forwards: Kieran Read (c), Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Vaea Fifita, Akira Ioane
                                  Halfbacks: Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara, Brad Weber
                                  No 10s/15: Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga, Jordie Barrett
                                  Midfielders: Sonny Bill Williams, Ryan Crotty, Anton Lienert-Brown, Jack Goodhue
                                  Outside backs: David Havili, Ben Smith, Rieko Ioane, George Bridge

                                  I've seen nothing to suggest that Akira Ioane will make the squad (Based on his play now and when he was previously unselected)

                                  I actually didn’t see his name in there. Yeah I don’t think he will make it.

                                  Also another one that is a question mark and that is Havili. Can’t see them taking both Jordie and Havili.

                                  That depends on the role they want Jordie to play, but yes, based on form Havili should make the squad, but I suspect they'll go for Jordie.

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                                  @Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....

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                                    @Stargazer shame Ennor cant cover 10 like Jordie can....

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                                    @taniwharugby Ennor can't cover fullback either, but I've no doubt he'll smash it in the ABs squad of 2020 as a centre/wing!

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                                      @taniwharugby Ennor can't cover fullback either, but I've no doubt he'll smash it in the ABs squad of 2020 as a centre/wing!

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                                      @Stargazer could argue JB cant (shouldnt) cover FB most of the time either... 😉

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                        Harris vs Coltman
                                        Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                        Weber vs TTT
                                        Inclusion of Ioane
                                        Bridge vs Naholo

                                        I would change that into:

                                        Harris vs Coltman
                                        Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                        Weber vs TTT
                                        Bridge vs Naholo

                                        thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

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                                        @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                        Harris vs Coltman
                                        Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                        Weber vs TTT
                                        Inclusion of Ioane
                                        Bridge vs Naholo

                                        I would change that into:

                                        Harris vs Coltman
                                        Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                        Weber vs TTT
                                        Bridge vs Naholo

                                        thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

                                        The TRC squad is going to be huge, as they are resting a pile o players for the first test vs Arg. So I think it will include all of the above, and they'll decide from that and in camp.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

                                          Harris vs Coltman
                                          Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
                                          Weber vs TTT
                                          Inclusion of Ioane
                                          Bridge vs Naholo

                                          I would change that into:

                                          Harris vs Coltman
                                          Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
                                          Weber vs TTT
                                          Bridge vs Naholo

                                          thats how I see it...although TRC squad should sort a few things out anyway

                                          The TRC squad is going to be huge, as they are resting a pile o players for the first test vs Arg. So I think it will include all of the above, and they'll decide from that and in camp.

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                                          @Machpants I thought it was going to be a 41-man squad?

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