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All Black Coach - Ian Foster

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Chris-B maybe he's doing it as a way to pressure NZR into not appointing him...although NZR surely would check with Rennie first, given there hasnt been any official announcement from AR or Rennie has there?

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    @taniwharugby No - and to be fair Chieka's seat is still warm. Hard to see that they would have run any sort of open recruitment process while he was still in place and without it being common knowledge.

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      Sparky's All Blacks Coaching Dream Team

      Head Coach: Jamie Joseph
      Deputy Head Coach (Defence): Scott Robertson

      Assistant Coach Forwards: Jono Gibbes
      Assistant Coach Backs: Tony Brown

      Specialist Coach Breakdown: Richie McCaw
      Specialist Coach Scrums: Clarke Dermody
      Specialist Coach Skills: Dave Ellis
      Specialist Coach Mental Skills: Gilbert Enoka

      Non-Coaching Selector: David Kirk

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      • sparkyS sparky

        Sparky's All Blacks Coaching Dream Team

        Head Coach: Jamie Joseph
        Deputy Head Coach (Defence): Scott Robertson

        Assistant Coach Forwards: Jono Gibbes
        Assistant Coach Backs: Tony Brown

        Specialist Coach Breakdown: Richie McCaw
        Specialist Coach Scrums: Clarke Dermody
        Specialist Coach Skills: Dave Ellis
        Specialist Coach Mental Skills: Gilbert Enoka

        Non-Coaching Selector: David Kirk

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        @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

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        • HigginsH Higgins

          @sparky Why would you pick players that still need coaching in rugby skills? They are All Blacks so you would expect them to have those bases covered before getting selected thus no need to have a Specialist Coach Skills apointee.

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          @Higgins Because even excellent players can be coached to be better. Look at the job Eddie Jones and his large team of coaches have done with the England players in the last four years.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            @Higgins Because even excellent players can be coached to be better. Look at the job Eddie Jones and his large team of coaches have done with the England players in the last four years.

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            @sparky Does that not fall withing the gambit of Assistant Coach Forwards and Assistant Coach Backs roles?

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              I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

              But when do the name the candidates or do they?

              Thursday?

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                I agree with what Mains had to say there

                To me Robertson is a good candidate for an assistant coach. I don't want him for the head coach for the reasons Mains describes.

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                @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                I agree with what Mains had to say there

                To me Robertson is a good candidate for an assistant coach. I don't want him for the head coach for the reasons Mains describes.

                I can never take mains seriously. Just about the worst winning percentage of any recent AB coach. Including losing to that world XV at home. Not to mentio the French in 1994.

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                • D Darren

                  I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

                  But when do the name the candidates or do they?

                  Thursday?

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                  @Darren said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                  I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

                  Foster would obviously be a continuation of the current selections/tactics. Robertson would probably be the next closest.

                  I think every other candidate would make more significant changes.

                  What do you mean by most 'diverse'? Robertson would have the most narrow cv?

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    I agree with what Mains had to say there

                    To me Robertson is a good candidate for an assistant coach. I don't want him for the head coach for the reasons Mains describes.

                    I can never take mains seriously. Just about the worst winning percentage of any recent AB coach. Including losing to that world XV at home. Not to mentio the French in 1994.

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                    @Billy-Tell said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                    I can never take mains seriously. Just about the worst winning percentage of any recent AB coach. Including losing to that world XV at home. Not to mentio the French in 1994.

                    'The All Blacks need a coach not a Laurie'

                    I agree. Doesn't make him wrong on everything though.. his comments on the possible coaches were spot on

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                      Gatland would be my dream ticket with Brown as attack coach, and Robertson as forwards coach (and as apprentice to take over from Gatland in head role after 2023).

                      Let Gatland take a sabbatical during his British Lions year, and Robertson steps up for a year as job experience bonus.

                      I dont think theres any coaching IP left to be worried about Gatland taking with him on his sabbatical.

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                      • broughieB broughie

                        @Chester-Draws Blackadder? Whenever I hear that name I think role player and plodder, kind of like a draught horse. We need dynamic big and strong players at international level.

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                        @broughie said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                        @Chester-Draws Blackadder? Whenever I hear that name I think role player and plodder, kind of like a draught horse. We need dynamic big and strong players at international level.

                        Smiley Barrett was a role player and plodder, kind of like a draught horse...

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                          "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                          Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                          "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                          See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                            "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                            See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                            @ACT-Crusader said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                            Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                            "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                            See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

                            Happens on the fern daily

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                            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                              Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                              "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                              https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                              See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

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                              @ACT-Crusader

                              It's more common in the NH too. I think some coaches like to take the pressure off the players by making the enormous media concentrate on them.

                              For instance, Hansen was a complete twat when he coached Wales and it seemed like he was forcing controversy with every comment

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                Whoever the next AB coach is, I don't wnat to see this sort of puerile crap.

                                "England's Eddie Jones hits back at Gatland: 'Enjoy the third-place play-off'"

                                https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/oct/28/england-eddie-jones-hits-back-warren-gatland-enjoy-third-place-play-off-rugby-world-cup

                                See I don’t really mind that. Maybe I’ve been living in OZ too long and Eddie’s just doing what Eddie does (and many Aussie coaches would respond). But a bit of colour in return when someone has taken a swipe isn’t that bad.

                                Victor MeldrewV Away
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                                Victor Meldrew
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                                @ACT-Crusader

                                Being passionate is one thing. Acting like a soccer manager is another.

                                Loathe this sort of stuff no matter where it comes from.

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @ACT-Crusader

                                  It's more common in the NH too. I think some coaches like to take the pressure off the players by making the enormous media concentrate on them.

                                  For instance, Hansen was a complete twat when he coached Wales and it seemed like he was forcing controversy with every comment

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                                  @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                  It's more common in the NH too. I think some coaches like to take the pressure off the players by making the enormous media concentrate on them.

                                  Maybe. But I'm thinking "Big ego....look at me!"

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @Darren said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    I'd like to see Razor, just cause I want to see a little shake up and he is probably the most diverse.

                                    Foster would obviously be a continuation of the current selections/tactics. Robertson would probably be the next closest.

                                    I think every other candidate would make more significant changes.

                                    What do you mean by most 'diverse'? Robertson would have the most narrow cv?

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                                    @Duluth said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                    What do you mean by most 'diverse'? Robertson would have the most narrow cv?

                                    He lives in a different part of Christchurch than Hansen.

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      Recent comments from Rennie:

                                      “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                                      “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                                      So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Recent comments from Rennie:

                                        “Probably the easiest way to clarify this is that I know there’s lots of speculation in the media that I’ve already signed [a contract with Australia] and people have been informed and all this sort of stuff,” he said. "That’s not accurate. I haven’t signed, and I will definitely be here till the end of this season, which is the end of June (2020).

                                        “I’ll just reiterate: regardless of what happens to me beyond this season, I’m here for the full season. It’s important to me. I’m committed to the Warriors and I won’t leave earlier.” Asked whether he would be interested in coaching the Wallabies, Rennie said he would jump at the chance. "Yeah, I think we’ve discussed this before, so yeah, absolutely," he said. "I guess what I’m implying is there’s lots of talk about this and I’m already committed [to Glasgow], you know. There’s a lot of speculation, as there has been for months.”

                                        So there appears to be no reason why he couldn't throw his name into the hat for the ABs.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

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                                          @Machpants said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

                                          @Bovidae June 2020 is a late start getting then into first tests in July

                                          I'm sure "I wont leave earlier" wouldn't stick so hard and fast if the job was the ABs as opposed to the Wobblies.

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