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Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain

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    Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

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    • ARHSA ARHS

      Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

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      @ARHS said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

      Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

      Yep all the rugby currently needs a captain.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

        I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

        Does the AB captain get paid more?

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        @taniwharugby

        Foster says that they have delayed the announcement for a month so we would have known already but for covid-19. Interesting that Cane was approached several months ago about taking the role, probably not long after Foster was appointed. I do remember him saying he had decided on his captain back then.

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          Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.

          Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

            I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

            Does the AB captain get paid more?

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            @taniwharugby said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

            While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?

            **> I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?

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            Does the AB captain get paid more?

            .....and the Scots.

            Fucken typical. Using a lame excuse like a worldwide pandemic to avoid getting thrashed.

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            • TimT Tim

              Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.

              Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.

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              @Tim said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

              Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.

              Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.

              He also skipped Super to play in Japan.

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                Where is BSG? Cane, Williamson and Burling all 1-2 years apart from each other at TBHS? Crazy.

                Assuming Foster is looking at this with a two year timeline then it's a good appointment. His contract is up then and Cane will be hitting 10 years at pro level. We can cross our fingers he can extend beyond that.

                I've seen a few comments about "when was the last time we had a skipper who was not the best at their position?". With provincial blinkers removed I'd say every skipper outside of Fitzy and McCaw at least had a very worthy challenger for their spot at some stage in their tenure.

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                • ARHSA ARHS

                  Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

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                  @ARHS said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                  Good sensible move. Best man for the job currently.

                  Probably the best devious slight at an AB captain ever.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Away
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                    Pleased with this.

                    Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                    And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

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                      Was never really going to be anyone else except maybe Sam Whitelock. Obviously my Chiefs bias plays a part in saying I'm happy with the choice.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        Pleased with this.

                        Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                        And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

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                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                        Pleased with this.

                        Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                        And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                        Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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                            @MN5 not emotionally or mentally then. Man knows his limits.

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                              So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                              If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

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                                So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                                If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

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                                @scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                                If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

                                No Aaron Smith?

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                  So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?

                                  If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?

                                  No Aaron Smith?

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                                  @canefan yep, considering Smith and Mo'unga are the starter 9/10, I don't see how you couldn't have them there. Taylor would probably be involved in some capacity.

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                                    @canefan yep, considering Smith and Mo'unga are the starter 9/10, I don't see how you couldn't have them there. Taylor would probably be involved in some capacity.

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                                    @Bones I had those 2 on my list, though I speculated and restricted the final group to 5. No idea how big the group is actually; it’s probably fluid.

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                      Pleased with this.

                                      Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                      And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                                      Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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                                      @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                      Pleased with this.

                                      Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                      And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                                      Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

                                      World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.

                                      Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                        Pleased with this.

                                        Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                        And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                                        Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

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                                        @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                        Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

                                        His non-selection wasn't the dumbest thing we did on the field that day

                                        Not by a long chalk.

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                                          @canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:

                                          Pleased with this.

                                          Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.

                                          And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.

                                          Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....

                                          World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.

                                          Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.

                                          Victor MeldrewV Away
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                                          @pakman

                                          Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.

                                          I still think we gave England far too easy a ride in the first 5-10 minutes. Cane's physical presence would have blunted England's attack and stopped them getting on the front foot so early.

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