Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain
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While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?
I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?
Does the AB captain get paid more?
@taniwharugby said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
While I think he is the best man for the job, seems odd to name him given the uncertainty going forward, although I guess around now is when he'd have been named for the June series?
**> I can't even remember who was supposed to be coming haha...was it Wales?
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Does the AB captain get paid more?.....and the Scots.
Fucken typical. Using a lame excuse like a worldwide pandemic to avoid getting thrashed.
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Whitelock was an AB great, but he needs to prove he's still an automatic starter.
Cane was the best option. Hope he stays healthy.
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Where is BSG? Cane, Williamson and Burling all 1-2 years apart from each other at TBHS? Crazy.
Assuming Foster is looking at this with a two year timeline then it's a good appointment. His contract is up then and Cane will be hitting 10 years at pro level. We can cross our fingers he can extend beyond that.
I've seen a few comments about "when was the last time we had a skipper who was not the best at their position?". With provincial blinkers removed I'd say every skipper outside of Fitzy and McCaw at least had a very worthy challenger for their spot at some stage in their tenure.
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Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
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Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
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So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
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So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
@scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
No Aaron Smith?
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@scribe said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
So does the leadership group ever get formally announced?
If it’s another 5 then I’d go with: Coles, Patty T, Whitelock, TJ and Barrett B. Don’t they often have young guys in the group (Cane and McCaw were by all accounts IIRC, appointed early in their AB careers), so someone like Mounga could be there?
No Aaron Smith?
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@canefan yep, considering Smith and Mo'unga are the starter 9/10, I don't see how you couldn't have them there. Taylor would probably be involved in some capacity.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
@canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.
Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
@canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
His non-selection wasn't the dumbest thing we did on the field that day
Not by a long chalk.
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@canefan said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Pleased with this.
Does the hard yards, never gives up and we always seem to play that little bit better when he's on the field.
And he has that look in his eye when the going gets tough - a more determined, different look to Read's wild-eyed expression when things aren't going well.
Should have started in Yokohama. Still can't believe it....
World rugby has put up full replay, which I hadn't seen before.
Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.
Watched first half. Ardie wasn't bad, but always just off at breakdown. A fit Sam may have affected a couple of turnovers, and would have been more effective covering for Ritchie M's tackling weakness, which lead to two of England's three best breaks.
I still think we gave England far too easy a ride in the first 5-10 minutes. Cane's physical presence would have blunted England's attack and stopped them getting on the front foot so early.
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Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.
@akan004 said in Sam Cane - All Blacks Captain:
Joe Moody missed a lot of tackles that night. Probably his worst performance in a black jersey.
I guess you haven't heard about that day Joe put on a black v-neck and proceeded to accidentally run over his neighbours cat, dropped his lunch on the floor (carpet) on the way out to the deck and then to top it all off had a sloppy shit where half of it sprayed on that top ledge bit of the bowl. Bought an instant kiwi that was a dud too.
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List of captains for the ABs
http://stats.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/records/player/list_of_captains.html?id=8;type=team
List from Fitzy on, with number of captained matches in brackets
Fitz (51)
Henderson (1)
Marshall (4)
Randell (22)
Blackadder (10 - honestly thought it was more)
Oliver (10)
Thorne (23)
Umaga (21)
McCaw (110)
Collins J (3)
So'oialo (5)
Mealamu (3)
Muliana (3)
Hore (1)
Read (52)
Cane (3)
Smith B (1)
Whitelock S (6)
Whitelock L (1)
