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2021 Rugby Championship

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  • nzzpN nzzp

    @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

    smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

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    @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

    @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

    smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

    Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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      No guarantee that SA and Arg make to WA either, which is independent of what is happening in NZ.

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      • canefanC canefan

        @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

        smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

        Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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        @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

        @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

        smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

        Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

        We had - but Delta was floating about. Risk registers will ahve this - but it's probably a risk that gets tolerated. Whether that's a smart idea or not is another question- but it was a risk you could mitigate by travelling early.

        It isn't easy, but should have been on the radar

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        • rotatedR rotated

          Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

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          @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

          Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

          How could this be quid pro quo?

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          • canefanC canefan

            @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

            smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

            Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

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            @canefan said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @nzzp said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

            @nzzp And now no dollars. Perhaps the basline dollars were too much to risk? Very dumb management. Any change would have to involve another two weeks in quarantine, so any fall back position was going to be fucked anyway.

            smart risk management would have been to head out to WA as soon as Auckland got played. Not ideal for players, but best for the championship. I mean, how else do you mitigate the (small) risk of a sudden 2 week quarantine being required?

            Easy to say in hindsight. But we'd been clean for months

            Everyone in New Zealand knew it was just a matter of time.

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            • KiapK Kiap

              @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

              How could this be quid pro quo?

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              @kiap said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

              Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

              How could this be quid pro quo?

              Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

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              • rotatedR rotated

                @kiap said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                Maybe there is some quid pro quo from SANZAAR to come as the SA/NZ game clashes with a possible AFL Grand Final.

                How could this be quid pro quo?

                Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

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                @rotated said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                Rejig the schedule to free up that date and things can proceed. Everyone happy.

                Fair enough, although I don't think RA had more than 1 agreed WA game to proceed with, that being bled 3.

                The others were being re-shopped around due to, obviously, aspects such as playing in NSW being less than optimal.

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                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                  Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                  
                  Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                  
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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                    Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                    
                    Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                    
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                    @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                      Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                      
                      Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                      
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                      @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                      Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                      
                      Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                      

                      Kaching$

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

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                        @sparky said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                        @kiwimurph SANZAR are overlooking the possibility of the Isle of Man as a potential competition hub I tell you.

                        Other candidates include Reunion Island, Palau and Pitcairn Island.

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/rugby-championship-set-for-shock-relocation-following-outbreak/

                          Sources have confirmed to RugbyPass that Sanzaar are weighing up shifting the Rugby Championship to Europe for the remainder of the competition, following the Springboks’ match with Argentina this weekend.
                          
                          Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.
                          
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                          @kiwimurph said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                          Four double-headers are tentatively being planned for Paris, London, Dublin and Cardiff.

                          The time difference would suck for us unless they were night games.

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                            If it were at Twickenham I could actually take my kids to an All Black match which would be bloody emotional!

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                              Legit, this is great news except the time difference.

                              Christ, I hope we get some rugby.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Legit, this is great news except the time difference.

                                Christ, I hope we get some rugby.

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                                @tim said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                Legit, this is great news except the time difference.

                                Christ, I hope we get some rugby.

                                If they play the games at night like they used to often do, you can wake up and watch over breakfast

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                                • DavesofthunderD Davesofthunder

                                  If it were at Twickenham I could actually take my kids to an All Black match which would be bloody emotional!

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                                  @davesofthunder said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                  If it were at Twickenham I could actually take my kids to an All Black match which would be bloody emotional!

                                  How about Jersey?

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                                    There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                                    • C cgrant

                                      There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                                      @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                      There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                                      It's not safer but there is a lower chance of the tournament being disrupted or cancelled if they host it there. Covid isn't going away so we have to learn to live with it and playing tests in countries with high cases will be the new norm going forward.

                                      If all the teams are fully vaccinated, and are in their bubbles then I don't see what the problem is. It will also be easier for wives and partners to travel and be with the team. After all we are going on an EOYT there anyway.

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                                      • C cgrant

                                        There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                                        @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                        There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                                        UK, Ireland and France have already double vaccinated almost anyone who wants. Certainly where I am, vaccinations are freely available for anyone over 16 . All three states have therefore lifted the vast majority of COVID restrictions.

                                        The risk of cancellation is therefore significantly lower. There is a higher risk to players and management of catching Covid, but if they can offset the risk of illness by putting them in bubbles as well as vaccination.

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                                        • C cgrant

                                          There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

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                                          @cgrant said in 2021 Rugby Championship:

                                          There are tens of thousands of Covid cases in Europe every day, so it is far more dangerous than NZ or Australia ! Someone will have to explain why it is safer - from a health perspective - to move the games there.

                                          The perception is it's dangerous, thanks to MSM.

                                          With low hospitalisation and a relatively low daily death toll this part of the world is where you want to be at the moment.

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