All Blacks 2021
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
With Cane out there's no way this coaching group won't start Ardie.
Ardie will start at either 7 or 8.
At least he can't play both which means a start for one of Papali'i/Sotutu/Jacobson.
I’d say with both Cane and Frizell out that Ardie is a dead certainty to start in the bigger games
No big games for a while tho, first 3 aren't
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
With Cane out there's no way this coaching group won't start Ardie.
Ardie will start at either 7 or 8.
At least he can't play both which means a start for one of Papali'i/Sotutu/Jacobson.
I’d say with both Cane and Frizell out that Ardie is a dead certainty to start in the bigger games
No big games for a while tho, first 3 aren't
Good chance for Foster to notch up another historic loss
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
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- Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.
Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.
One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.
- Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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Big savea fan but this is my team so far:
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Hogman
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Taylor
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Laulala
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Whitelock
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Vaii
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Robinson/Blackadder
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Papalii
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Sotutu
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Smith
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Moanga
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Fianganuku
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Havili
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Lenert-Brown
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Jordan
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J Barrett
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De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)
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Aumua
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Tuangafasi
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Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)
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A Savea
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Webber
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DMac
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Reece
A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.
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Big savea fan but this is my team so far:
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Hogman
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Taylor
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Laulala
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Whitelock
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Vaii
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Robinson/Blackadder
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Papalii
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Sotutu
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Smith
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Moanga
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Fianganuku
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Havili
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Lenert-Brown
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Jordan
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J Barrett
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De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)
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Aumua
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Tuangafasi
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Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)
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A Savea
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Webber
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DMac
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Reece
A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.
@mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop.
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@mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop.
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop.
16,17,18 doesn't mean anything. Could be no23. He is still a hooker
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward packSavea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
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What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:
- The Groot
- Aumua
- The mighty Williams
- Scott Barrett
- Vaiiiiii
- Robinson/ Blackadder
- Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
- Sotutu
- Fakatava
- Moanga
- Clarke
- J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
- Lenert-Brown
- Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
- Jordan (could become cullen good)
- A Ross?
- S Vikena?
- Tuangafasi?
- Lord or Darry
- Savea
- Only other good young guy is Roe
- DMac or Z Sullivan
- Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:
- The Groot
- Aumua
- The mighty Williams
- Scott Barrett
- Vaiiiiii
- Robinson/ Blackadder
- Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
- Sotutu
- Fakatava
- Moanga
- Clarke
- J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
- Lenert-Brown
- Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
- Jordan (could become cullen good)
- A Ross?
- S Vikena?
- Tuangafasi?
- Lord or Darry
- Savea
- Only other good young guy is Roe
- DMac or Z Sullivan
- Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.
- Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.
- Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
Starting loose forwards as a trio aren't abrasive enough for test footy imo. One of Ardie or Hoskins would need to drop out.
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What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:
- The Groot
- Aumua
- The mighty Williams
- Scott Barrett
- Vaiiiiii
- Robinson/ Blackadder
- Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
- Sotutu
- Fakatava
- Moanga
- Clarke
- J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
- Lenert-Brown
- Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
- Jordan (could become cullen good)
- A Ross?
- S Vikena?
- Tuangafasi?
- Lord or Darry
- Savea
- Only other good young guy is Roe
- DMac or Z Sullivan
- Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:
- The Groot
- Aumua
- The mighty Williams
- Scott Barrett
- Vaiiiiii
- Robinson/ Blackadder
- Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
- Sotutu
- Fakatava
- Moanga
- Clarke
- J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
- Lenert-Brown
- Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
- Jordan (could become cullen good)
- A Ross?
- S Vikena?
- Tuangafasi?
- Lord or Darry
- Savea
- Only other good young guy is Roe
- DMac or Z Sullivan
- Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.
That’s as far as I got.
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@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:
- The Groot
- Aumua
- The mighty Williams
- Scott Barrett
- Vaiiiiii
- Robinson/ Blackadder
- Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
- Sotutu
- Fakatava
- Moanga
- Clarke
- J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
- Lenert-Brown
- Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
- Jordan (could become cullen good)
- A Ross?
- S Vikena?
- Tuangafasi?
- Lord or Darry
- Savea
- Only other good young guy is Roe
- DMac or Z Sullivan
- Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.
That’s as far as I got.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:
@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:
- The Groot
- Aumua
- The mighty Williams
- Scott Barrett
- Vaiiiiii
- Robinson/ Blackadder
- Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
- Sotutu
- Fakatava
- Moanga
- Clarke
- J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
- Lenert-Brown
- Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
- Jordan (could become cullen good)
- A Ross?
- S Vikena?
- Tuangafasi?
- Lord or Darry
- Savea
- Only other good young guy is Roe
- DMac or Z Sullivan
- Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.
That’s as far as I got.
Williams can play both sides he was originally a TH
Probably will get some game time at TH for the Crusaders next season with Michael A gone. -
- Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.
Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.
One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.@pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:
- Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.
Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.
One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.Jeez.
678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.
Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...
Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...
Pick 3 ...
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ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.
Que?
Havili 12
ALB 13??
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.
Que?
Havili 12
ALB 13??
If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.
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@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward packSavea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
Bollocks. He was coming back from injury.
And "have".
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@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward packSavea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward packSavea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.
Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.
Que?
Havili 12
ALB 13??
If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:
@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.
Que?
Havili 12
ALB 13??
If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.
The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?
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@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.
- Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.
- Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
Sotutu is going to be busy carrying them for 50mins.
