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  • pukunuiP pukunui
    1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

    Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

    One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
    Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

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    #781

    @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

    1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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      Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

      1. Hogman

      2. Taylor

      3. Laulala

      4. Whitelock

      5. Vaii

      6. Robinson/Blackadder

      7. Papalii

      8. Sotutu

      9. Smith

      10. Moanga

      11. Fianganuku

      12. Havili

      13. Lenert-Brown

      14. Jordan

      15. J Barrett

      16. De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)

      17. Aumua

      18. Tuangafasi

      19. Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)

      20. A Savea

      21. Webber

      22. DMac

      23. Reece

      A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

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      • M Mackerzzzz

        Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

        1. Hogman

        2. Taylor

        3. Laulala

        4. Whitelock

        5. Vaii

        6. Robinson/Blackadder

        7. Papalii

        8. Sotutu

        9. Smith

        10. Moanga

        11. Fianganuku

        12. Havili

        13. Lenert-Brown

        14. Jordan

        15. J Barrett

        16. De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)

        17. Aumua

        18. Tuangafasi

        19. Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)

        20. A Savea

        21. Webber

        22. DMac

        23. Reece

        A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

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        @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

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          @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

          @mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

          16,17,18 doesn't mean anything. Could be no23. He is still a hooker

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

            Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

            Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

            Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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            @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

            @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

            Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
            

            Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

            Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

            Past

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              What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

              1. The Groot
              2. Aumua
              3. The mighty Williams
              4. Scott Barrett
              5. Vaiiiiii
              6. Robinson/ Blackadder
              7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
              8. Sotutu
              9. Fakatava
              10. Moanga
              11. Clarke
              12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
              13. Lenert-Brown
              14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
              15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
              16. A Ross?
              17. S Vikena?
              18. Tuangafasi?
              19. Lord or Darry
              20. Savea
              21. Only other good young guy is Roe
              22. DMac or Z Sullivan
              23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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              • M Mackerzzzz

                What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                1. The Groot
                2. Aumua
                3. The mighty Williams
                4. Scott Barrett
                5. Vaiiiiii
                6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                8. Sotutu
                9. Fakatava
                10. Moanga
                11. Clarke
                12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                13. Lenert-Brown
                14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                16. A Ross?
                17. S Vikena?
                18. Tuangafasi?
                19. Lord or Darry
                20. Savea
                21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                @mackerzzzz 🤮

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                  1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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                  @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                  @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                  1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

                  Starting loose forwards as a trio aren't abrasive enough for test footy imo. One of Ardie or Hoskins would need to drop out.

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                  • M Mackerzzzz

                    What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                    1. The Groot
                    2. Aumua
                    3. The mighty Williams
                    4. Scott Barrett
                    5. Vaiiiiii
                    6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                    7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                    8. Sotutu
                    9. Fakatava
                    10. Moanga
                    11. Clarke
                    12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                    13. Lenert-Brown
                    14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                    15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                    16. A Ross?
                    17. S Vikena?
                    18. Tuangafasi?
                    19. Lord or Darry
                    20. Savea
                    21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                    22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                    23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                    #789

                    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                    What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                    1. The Groot
                    2. Aumua
                    3. The mighty Williams
                    4. Scott Barrett
                    5. Vaiiiiii
                    6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                    7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                    8. Sotutu
                    9. Fakatava
                    10. Moanga
                    11. Clarke
                    12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                    13. Lenert-Brown
                    14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                    15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                    16. A Ross?
                    17. S Vikena?
                    18. Tuangafasi?
                    19. Lord or Darry
                    20. Savea
                    21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                    22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                    23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                    Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                    That’s as far as I got.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                      What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                      1. The Groot
                      2. Aumua
                      3. The mighty Williams
                      4. Scott Barrett
                      5. Vaiiiiii
                      6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                      7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                      8. Sotutu
                      9. Fakatava
                      10. Moanga
                      11. Clarke
                      12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                      13. Lenert-Brown
                      14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                      15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                      16. A Ross?
                      17. S Vikena?
                      18. Tuangafasi?
                      19. Lord or Darry
                      20. Savea
                      21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                      22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                      23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                      Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                      That’s as far as I got.

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                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

                      @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

                      What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                      1. The Groot
                      2. Aumua
                      3. The mighty Williams
                      4. Scott Barrett
                      5. Vaiiiiii
                      6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                      7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                      8. Sotutu
                      9. Fakatava
                      10. Moanga
                      11. Clarke
                      12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                      13. Lenert-Brown
                      14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                      15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                      16. A Ross?
                      17. S Vikena?
                      18. Tuangafasi?
                      19. Lord or Darry
                      20. Savea
                      21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                      22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                      23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

                      Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

                      That’s as far as I got.

                      Williams can play both sides he was originally a TH
                      Probably will get some game time at TH for the Crusaders next season with Michael A gone.

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                      • pukunuiP pukunui
                        1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                        Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                        One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                        Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

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                        @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                        1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                        Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                        One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                        Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                        Jeez.

                        678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                        Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                        Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                        Pick 3 ...

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

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                          @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                          ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                          Que?

                          Havili 12
                          ALB 13

                          ??

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                            ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                            Que?

                            Havili 12
                            ALB 13

                            ??

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                            #793

                            @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                            @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                            ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                            Que?

                            Havili 12
                            ALB 13

                            ??

                            If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack

                              Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                              Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

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                              @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                              @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                              Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                              

                              Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                              Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                              Bollocks. He was coming back from injury.

                              And "have".

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                                @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                

                                Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                                Past

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                                #795

                                @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                @tim said in All Blacks 2021:

                                Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
                                

                                Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

                                Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

                                Past

                                Have

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                  Que?

                                  Havili 12
                                  ALB 13

                                  ??

                                  If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

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                                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                  ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                  Que?

                                  Havili 12
                                  ALB 13

                                  ??

                                  If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

                                  The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                                    1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.
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                                    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

                                    @pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

                                    1. Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

                                    Sotutu is going to be busy carrying them for 50mins.

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                      Que?

                                      Havili 12
                                      ALB 13

                                      ??

                                      If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

                                      The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

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                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

                                      ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

                                      Que?

                                      Havili 12
                                      ALB 13

                                      ??

                                      If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

                                      The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

                                      Sounds like a glowing endorsement to me.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                                        Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                                        One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                                        Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                                        Jeez.

                                        678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                                        Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                                        Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                                        Pick 3 ...

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                                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        @pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

                                        1. Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

                                        Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

                                        One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
                                        Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

                                        Jeez.

                                        678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

                                        Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

                                        Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

                                        Pick 3 ...

                                        Yeah a huge amount of quality options for once. The important part will be picking 3 that get the balance right.

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                                        • M Mackerzzzz

                                          What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

                                          1. The Groot
                                          2. Aumua
                                          3. The mighty Williams
                                          4. Scott Barrett
                                          5. Vaiiiiii
                                          6. Robinson/ Blackadder
                                          7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
                                          8. Sotutu
                                          9. Fakatava
                                          10. Moanga
                                          11. Clarke
                                          12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
                                          13. Lenert-Brown
                                          14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
                                          15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
                                          16. A Ross?
                                          17. S Vikena?
                                          18. Tuangafasi?
                                          19. Lord or Darry
                                          20. Savea
                                          21. Only other good young guy is Roe
                                          22. DMac or Z Sullivan
                                          23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?
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                                          @mackerzzzz Well, it's a revisionist interpretation.......

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